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They denied it at first, yes. But they were also surprisingly open to allowing foreign investigators on site. They even agreed to give the black boxes over to t
by mthoms 7y ago
They denied it at first, yes. But they were also surprisingly open to allowing foreign investigators on site. They even agreed to give the black boxes over to the Ukrainians.
If they were trying to hide something I feel like they would have handled it much differently. Like, for instance how the Russian-backed forces acted when they did the same thing in 2014. Deny, deflect, deny, repeat.
The truth would have come out eventually in Iran. Video or not. After all, this incident happened over a populated area with the worlds best intelligence apparatus laser focused on it.
- dole 7y ago“A senior administration official said Friday that he thought the Iranians wanted American investigators there to keep up the appearance that they did not know what had caused the crash.” https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/world/middleeast/missile-iran-plane-crash.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/world/middleeast/missile-...
- mthoms 7y agoThat would have gone terribly. The Iranians aren't that stupid. What I think likely happened is that the Iranian aviation authority was misled by their own government and actually believed it was an accident. At least at first.
- aaomidi 7y agoIf they didn't they would've lost any support they had left in the world. They would be left alone against the US. They had to. Iran did the right thing after realizing the thing they wanted to do was too costly.
- mthoms 7y agoOh I agree. I'm just saying there never seemed to be an organized or vigorous campaign of denial. The government was denying it while at the same time, the aviation authority seemed to be signalling that it welcomed international assistance. >They would be left alone against the US. They had to. That didn't deter the Russians in Ukraine. They still tried to cover it up. Badly.
- aaomidi 7y agoEurope depends on Russian gas or they freeze so not really an equal comparison.
- mthoms 7y agoI'm not sure your exact point, and where it conflicts with mine. You're saying that Iran would have preferred to sweep this under the rug? Well obviously. I'm only saying that unlike the Russia incident they didn't even seem to attempt an organized cover up.
- aaomidi 7y agoNo I'm saying what they did isn't praise worthy. They've swept plenty non-international shit under the rug. People need to not forget these events and I'm worried one "good" (read: expected) act from them is going to make them forget. I've lost family members to this corrupt country, so I'm a bit biased when I hate any sort of praise when they do the expected thing.
- nl 7y agoNot sure what your point it - this seems irrelevant. The Dutch are the ones who led the investigation and are now charging Russian citizens