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At what age would these treatments be applied? How often?

rantwasp 7y ago
this is mostly research. there are a lot of things you can do to slow down aging right now - almost orthogonal to your age: sleep 7+ hours per night, hit the gym (mix of cardio+strength), eat high quality food - the less processed the better - also try to eat a plant based diet, reduce the level of stress in your life, properly hydrate yourself, hang out with people you like, get a pet, get a side project that is a work of love, learn something every day, read books, reduce your social media (and media in general) consumption.
- nostromo 7y ago
  > eat a plant based diet I agree with everything else you've said, but the jury is definitely out on this one.
  - rantwasp 7y ago
    there is some research out there that suggests you may live longer if you can actually pull this off.
  - chrisco255 7y ago
    The current life expectancy for Iceland in 2020 is 83.07 years, a 0.18% increase from 2019. [1] Life expectancy for Hong Kong is 84.7 years. [2] Based on a comparison of 158 countries in 2013, Maldives ranked the highest in fish consumption per capita with 166 kg followed by Iceland and Hong Kong [3] Hong Kong also beats most countries in beef consumption, out-eating Americans by nearly 50% per capita. [4] So of the countries in the top 10 for life expectancy, we see a lot of meat in the diet. India has the most vegetarians of any country (at 38%). And their life expectancy ranks 133rd at 69.4 years. [1] https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ISL/iceland/life-expectancy https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ISL/iceland/life-expec... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expe... [3] https://www.helgilibrary.com/indicators/fish-consumption-per-capita/ https://www.helgilibrary.com/indicators/fish-consumption-per... [4] https://beef2live.com/story-world-beef-consumption-per-capita-ranking-countries-0-111634 https://beef2live.com/story-world-beef-consumption-per-capit...
    - Rotten194 7y ago
      Some big confounding factors there. Hong Kong and Iceland are also very wealthy compared to India.
      - chrisco255 7y ago
        Well at 133rd there are plenty of 3rd world countries above them. There's only 185 countries on the planet. It certainly shows that meat consumption doesn't hurt.
      - scarejunba 7y ago
        There is a fortunate coincidence here. There are wealthy vegetarian castes in India, and India tracks demographics by caste, so it's likely that the data is out there for us to figure this part out. An alternative is to do something like follow second-generation Western people of Indian origin. I know at least one study of Tuberculosis in the UK tested the effect of vegetarianism there and used the British Asian sub-population to do so, so there's probably some info there too. I don't know of any other large vegetarian groups.
    - gdudeman 7y ago
      These are highly confounding statistics. Meat consumption grows with wealth and lifespan also grows with wealth. To say lifespan grows with wealth because of meat consumption doesn’t make sense. Hong Kong’s beef consumption doubled since 2003. I’d wager your average elderly American ate more meat in their life than your average Hong Kong resident. Source: https://medium.com/@ecyY/meat-consumption-growth-in-hong-kong-is-alarming-872e46bf40ca https://medium.com/@ecyY/meat-consumption-growth-in-hong-kon...
      - chrisco255 7y ago
        Their life expectancy keeps increasing right along with their meat consumption: https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/HKG/hong-kong/life-expectancy https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/HKG/hong-kong/life-exp...
  - jv22222 7y ago
    From the OP > AGEs can also be encountered in foods, particularly foods that have been exposed to high temperatures, such as in grilling or frying. I wonder if non plant based diets promote more grilling and frying hence the bad wrap.
- xiphias2 7y ago
  Can you give a pointer to the research on non-social media consumption decreasing longevity? From what I read physical fitness correlates much better with it than mental fitness.
  - realtalk_sp 7y ago
    Wild guess but this could be related to stress. Specifically, the closer you can get to stoic and indifferent to the 'successes' of other people, the more content you are likely to be. Without the corrosive influence of social media, you might also be more likely to live a more authentic life that you find personally meaningful. That said, I doubt everyone has the same relationship with social media that I had. I found myself influenced by it even in small doses, and it always felt like it was detracting from my wellbeing. Going cold turkey ended up being a life-changing decision for me and I wouldn't dream of going back.
  - rantwasp 7y ago
    being social and interacting with people is actually beneficial. increasing your stress level by watching mainstream media and consuming regurgitated content probably is not.
hobofan 7y ago
Complete guess: Every 5-10 years (as it looks none of them are gene thereapies), depending of lifestyle and specific rate of damage of the individual starting around ~30.

this is mostly research. there are a lot of things you can do to slow down aging right now - almost orthogonal to your age: sleep 7+ hours per night, hit the gym (mix of cardio+strength), eat high quality food - the less processed the better - also try to eat a plant based diet, reduce the level of stress in your life, properly hydrate yourself, hang out with people you like, get a pet, get a side project that is a work of love, learn something every day, read books, reduce your social media (and media in general) consumption.

nostromo 7y ago
> eat a plant based diet I agree with everything else you've said, but the jury is definitely out on this one.
- rantwasp 7y ago
  there is some research out there that suggests you may live longer if you can actually pull this off.
- chrisco255 7y ago
  The current life expectancy for Iceland in 2020 is 83.07 years, a 0.18% increase from 2019. [1] Life expectancy for Hong Kong is 84.7 years. [2] Based on a comparison of 158 countries in 2013, Maldives ranked the highest in fish consumption per capita with 166 kg followed by Iceland and Hong Kong [3] Hong Kong also beats most countries in beef consumption, out-eating Americans by nearly 50% per capita. [4] So of the countries in the top 10 for life expectancy, we see a lot of meat in the diet. India has the most vegetarians of any country (at 38%). And their life expectancy ranks 133rd at 69.4 years. [1] https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ISL/iceland/life-expectancy https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ISL/iceland/life-expec... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expe... [3] https://www.helgilibrary.com/indicators/fish-consumption-per-capita/ https://www.helgilibrary.com/indicators/fish-consumption-per... [4] https://beef2live.com/story-world-beef-consumption-per-capita-ranking-countries-0-111634 https://beef2live.com/story-world-beef-consumption-per-capit...
  - Rotten194 7y ago
    Some big confounding factors there. Hong Kong and Iceland are also very wealthy compared to India.
    - chrisco255 7y ago
      Well at 133rd there are plenty of 3rd world countries above them. There's only 185 countries on the planet. It certainly shows that meat consumption doesn't hurt.
    - scarejunba 7y ago
      There is a fortunate coincidence here. There are wealthy vegetarian castes in India, and India tracks demographics by caste, so it's likely that the data is out there for us to figure this part out. An alternative is to do something like follow second-generation Western people of Indian origin. I know at least one study of Tuberculosis in the UK tested the effect of vegetarianism there and used the British Asian sub-population to do so, so there's probably some info there too. I don't know of any other large vegetarian groups.
  - gdudeman 7y ago
    These are highly confounding statistics. Meat consumption grows with wealth and lifespan also grows with wealth. To say lifespan grows with wealth because of meat consumption doesn’t make sense. Hong Kong’s beef consumption doubled since 2003. I’d wager your average elderly American ate more meat in their life than your average Hong Kong resident. Source: https://medium.com/@ecyY/meat-consumption-growth-in-hong-kong-is-alarming-872e46bf40ca https://medium.com/@ecyY/meat-consumption-growth-in-hong-kon...
    - chrisco255 7y ago
      Their life expectancy keeps increasing right along with their meat consumption: https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/HKG/hong-kong/life-expectancy https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/HKG/hong-kong/life-exp...
- jv22222 7y ago
  From the OP > AGEs can also be encountered in foods, particularly foods that have been exposed to high temperatures, such as in grilling or frying. I wonder if non plant based diets promote more grilling and frying hence the bad wrap.
xiphias2 7y ago
Can you give a pointer to the research on non-social media consumption decreasing longevity? From what I read physical fitness correlates much better with it than mental fitness.
- realtalk_sp 7y ago
  Wild guess but this could be related to stress. Specifically, the closer you can get to stoic and indifferent to the 'successes' of other people, the more content you are likely to be. Without the corrosive influence of social media, you might also be more likely to live a more authentic life that you find personally meaningful. That said, I doubt everyone has the same relationship with social media that I had. I found myself influenced by it even in small doses, and it always felt like it was detracting from my wellbeing. Going cold turkey ended up being a life-changing decision for me and I wouldn't dream of going back.
- rantwasp 7y ago
  being social and interacting with people is actually beneficial. increasing your stress level by watching mainstream media and consuming regurgitated content probably is not.

hobofan 7y ago

Complete guess: Every 5-10 years (as it looks none of them are gene thereapies), depending of lifestyle and specific rate of damage of the individual starting around ~30.