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Because programmers don't ask for more money often enough. Seriously. Here's the three minute version of doing it: 1. Work hard on tangible stuff, document a
by lionhearted 16y ago
Because programmers don't ask for more money often enough.
Seriously.
Here's the three minute version of doing it:
1. Work hard on tangible stuff, document and claim credit for doing it, and notify people with what benefit the work provides. This sounds maybe stupidly obvious, but a lot of non-technical people don't understand the value in something. So, "Upgraded XYZ so our website loads faster, which is proven to make customers more likely to buy according to ZYX paper" - I know, what a waste of time, right? Wrong! It's going to make you a lot of money. Tell people what you did.
2. Before you go to ask for more money, prepare a BATNA (Best Alternative to Negotiated Agreement) - if they say no, what will you do? You need to know this. Having other offers is obviously good. Savings are good. You don't even have to mention your BATNA, but you need a Plan B. Most people don't make one of these, so if their first attempt doesn't go swimmingly, they're in trouble.
3. Go in and stress how much more you'd like to do going forwards. This is huge. Do not mention what you've done in the past, except in the context of how it proves how much more you can do going forwards. So go in and say, "Hi boss, as I mentioned in all my various weekly reports, I've been learning new stuff and kicking massive ass. [that was step one] Recently I've picked up some new skills, and I've been getting recruited for a bunch of projects [step 2], but I really like working here. Actually, I think I can deliver even more value here, if I take on new responsibilities. I'd like to train a successor to gradually take over my current role, while I do ABC-stimulating-enjoyable-task that will bring the business new money. I don't even want to be compensated much more for it - I'm going to be bringing in lots more value/assets/sales/cash/whatever, but a moderately small raise is enough for me because I like working here so much." Then lay out what you're asking for.
Business people learn how to do this. You're leaving lots of money on the table and not getting a chance to work on cooler stuff that you'd like to do if you don't do this.
1. Regularly update with the work you completed, and the benefit it provides.
2. Decide what you want, and what you'll do as Plan B if your current company won't give it to you.
3. Go stress that you'd be able to produce more value if you transition your role to a more highly paid and enjoyable one. Be friendly and complimentary. Whenever possible, try not to ask for more money for the same role from the same company - people hate price increases, so it's better to expand your role to something that's also more enjoyable and produces more in their eyes. If you want a raise for doing the same exact work, it's probably good to start looking outside the current company as well for other offers.
- iamwil 16y agoHowever, I've read that as a boss, you may not want to entertain giving raises for those that ask for it, even though you may think you're cultivating the go-getters. It ends up that people feel like only those that are rewarded are those that cozy up to you, and politics will ensue. According to the article, when asked for a raise, the best thing is to say they have to wait for their review like everyone else, and that's when you'll take note of performances.
- ohharrow 16y agoThis is excellent advice, having been someone in a very similar situation, I wish I had read this about a year ago.
- jasonkester 16y agoI find that in practice, it's a lot easier to do steps 1 and 2, then simply take one of those offers to work someplace else. Your value as a developer increases so fast early in your career that you'll literally double your market rate during the course of your first job after college. There's simply no way that you can convey to a company that they need to pay you twice as much as they did when they hired you 3 years ago. They simply won't believe it. Sadly, the only way is to demonstrate it for them by actually accepting a job somewhere else for twice the money. The key is to remember that you're in this game for yourself first. It's nice to work for a good company with a good environment and a fun team, but at the end of the day it's not worth leaving tens of thousands of dollars on the table just to stay there.
- sskates 16y agoIt's widely held that the best programmers are orders of magnitude better than the worst ones. [1] This also goes for you x years ago versus you now. Why this isn't reflected in pay everywhere is beyond me. While people exploit these inefficiencies (exhibit A:startups) I'm surprised that the market still allows things like this to exist. Perhaps it's because there isn't such a large disparity for the vast majority of other professions? [1] http://www.paulgraham.com/gh.html http://www.paulgraham.com/gh.html