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Yeah, it seems like they're using "P2P" to mean "federated", which is backward. I'm surprised that they didn't think to include Secure Scuttlebutt in their pape

Yeah, it seems like they're using "P2P" to mean "federated", which is backward. I'm surprised that they didn't think to include Secure Scuttlebutt in their paper. Disclaimer: I work on Patchwork and SSB in general. :~)

rolleiflex 7y ago
Yup, SSB is a major one missing. Admittedly I was looking for my own network, Aether, which has more users and nodes than some of those listed — but if SSB is missing, then all bets are off. I've honestly never heard of most of the things in that list and I spend a lot of time in P2P circles. Interesting.
- kick 7y ago
  Aether has such a compelling pitch that I was going to install it despite the Electron bloat it'd introduce on my system, but then saw that you used snaps, which was really unfortunate. Have you considered something like AppImage instead? While not ideal, it minimizes your effort while also being compatible with every other distribution without requiring your users to install a large, complicated piece of software/package manager like Snap.
  - rolleiflex 7y ago
    Aether is a Go app, we use Electron just for the GUI. We do no processing in it - we do the processing in the go backend daemon. It’s pretty snappy and light. I tried AppImage first, it didn’t work.
- ChristianBundy 7y ago
  If you're interested, I think it would be really wise to have our DIY P2P communities chat more often. It's great to all get together at events like Dweb camp, but since we're all working on similar problems maybe more communication is better?
  - rolleiflex 7y ago
    Yes! I’m chatting semi-regularly with a bunch of SSB people over Twitter, but I would love to chat / help out more. SSB is a much bigger project than Aether so I’m sometimes at a loss who to talk to since I don’t know the project structure or who the core developers for certain features are. My email is in my HN profile, please do reach out.

rolleiflex 7y ago

Yup, SSB is a major one missing. Admittedly I was looking for my own network, Aether, which has more users and nodes than some of those listed — but if SSB is missing, then all bets are off. I've honestly never heard of most of the things in that list and I spend a lot of time in P2P circles. Interesting.

kick 7y ago
Aether has such a compelling pitch that I was going to install it despite the Electron bloat it'd introduce on my system, but then saw that you used snaps, which was really unfortunate. Have you considered something like AppImage instead? While not ideal, it minimizes your effort while also being compatible with every other distribution without requiring your users to install a large, complicated piece of software/package manager like Snap.
- rolleiflex 7y ago
  Aether is a Go app, we use Electron just for the GUI. We do no processing in it - we do the processing in the go backend daemon. It’s pretty snappy and light. I tried AppImage first, it didn’t work.
ChristianBundy 7y ago
If you're interested, I think it would be really wise to have our DIY P2P communities chat more often. It's great to all get together at events like Dweb camp, but since we're all working on similar problems maybe more communication is better?
- rolleiflex 7y ago
  Yes! I’m chatting semi-regularly with a bunch of SSB people over Twitter, but I would love to chat / help out more. SSB is a much bigger project than Aether so I’m sometimes at a loss who to talk to since I don’t know the project structure or who the core developers for certain features are. My email is in my HN profile, please do reach out.