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Florida made $77 million in 2017 alone in selling its DMV data to bill collectors, data brokers, marketing firms, and insurance companies. https://www.fastcomp

Florida made $77 million in 2017 alone in selling its DMV data to bill collectors, data brokers, marketing firms, and insurance companies. https://www.fastcompany.com/90376510/floridas-dmv-is-selling-drivers-personal-information-to-bill-collectors-and-data-brokers https://www.fastcompany.com/90376510/floridas-dmv-is-selling...

choward 7y ago
They hardly made any money. That's only 4 dollars per resident. That's ridiculous. I'd rather they just tax me another 10 dollars than give away my information without consent.
- NullPrefix 7y ago
  Don't give them ideas or they might just do it. And then sell your data anyway.
- paulddraper 7y ago
  Not all residents drive. But in any case, I doubt many people would think $4/yr for info that's probably already available.
  - choward 7y ago
    > Not all residents drive. That's why I bumped it to $10.
  - SilasX 7y ago
    Nitpick: the comparison should be to the number of residents that get an official state ID through the DMV, not drivers, and the former is a lot closer to the total >15-year-old population than drivers would be. (At least, if Florida is like a typical state DMV, which issues the state ID cards that may or may not have a driving endorsement.)
  - olliej 7y ago
    Could you give me your past addresses, dob, any names you've had, ...? Also, numerous states (I assume Florida is one of them) are hell bent on "real id" laws to control access to the polls, so essentially this is a "we will sell your data unless you choose not to vote". It also ignores that total impracticality of relying on public transport in many parts of the US - it's frequently not available at all, frequently delayed even when it is present, and is often absurdly slow (like 15-20 minute drives becoming more than an hour), and can be extremely expensive.
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adrr 7y ago
Wouldn’t insurance companies have a legitimate need for DMV data like verifying the insured driver has a license?
- trillic 7y ago
  There are systems for this use case in place. They don't involve selling data in bulk however.
Spooky23 7y ago
They probably lose money. They sign contracts so prevent unpaid sharing of identity data outside of law enforcement. Other state entities buy this data back from information brokers.

choward 7y ago

They hardly made any money. That's only 4 dollars per resident. That's ridiculous. I'd rather they just tax me another 10 dollars than give away my information without consent.

NullPrefix 7y ago
Don't give them ideas or they might just do it. And then sell your data anyway.
paulddraper 7y ago
Not all residents drive. But in any case, I doubt many people would think $4/yr for info that's probably already available.
- choward 7y ago
  > Not all residents drive. That's why I bumped it to $10.
- SilasX 7y ago
  Nitpick: the comparison should be to the number of residents that get an official state ID through the DMV, not drivers, and the former is a lot closer to the total >15-year-old population than drivers would be. (At least, if Florida is like a typical state DMV, which issues the state ID cards that may or may not have a driving endorsement.)
- olliej 7y ago
  Could you give me your past addresses, dob, any names you've had, ...? Also, numerous states (I assume Florida is one of them) are hell bent on "real id" laws to control access to the polls, so essentially this is a "we will sell your data unless you choose not to vote". It also ignores that total impracticality of relying on public transport in many parts of the US - it's frequently not available at all, frequently delayed even when it is present, and is often absurdly slow (like 15-20 minute drives becoming more than an hour), and can be extremely expensive.

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adrr 7y ago

Wouldn’t insurance companies have a legitimate need for DMV data like verifying the insured driver has a license?

trillic 7y ago
There are systems for this use case in place. They don't involve selling data in bulk however.

Spooky23 7y ago

They probably lose money. They sign contracts so prevent unpaid sharing of identity data outside of law enforcement. Other state entities buy this data back from information brokers.