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> It's easier, cheaper and faster to setup a DAO than an international foundation, especially regarding registration, opening bank accounts and international me

> It's easier, cheaper and faster to setup a DAO than an international foundation, especially regarding registration, opening bank accounts and international members. Important questions such as "which jurisdiction to register the organization in" or "who manages the bank account" becomes irrelevant in a DAO. I never understood these arguments. People do not live in an abstract space outside existing social and economical structures. If one way or another, this DAO thing turns into an actor paying wages, the related laws will apply in some juridiction. Now, what you might say is these questions become irrelevant for the structure creating the DAO, and are instead left to be solved by those receiving the benefit. It sounds dubious at best.

neiman 7y ago
I didn't meant the DAO to be an actor outside the legal system. The difficulty of answering your remark is that different legal systems probably have different point of views about it. According to what I was told where I live, I'm allowed to organize activities, even such involved payments, with other people without registering an organization. Especially if those other people come from different countries. As long as I'm declaring my full income and pay taxes. Such a thing limits what a DAO can do - for example, it can't sign agreements with regular companies (it's not a legal entity) or it cannot employ people. But as long as you don't do such things, I was told it is allowed. I'm being careful with such statements since I'm not a lawyer. You may see DAOs as a legal alternative for civil agreements, which are really difficult to make for individuals in the international market.
- reificator 7y ago
  > Such a thing limits what a DAO can do - for example, it can't sign agreements with regular companies (it's not a legal entity) or it cannot employ people. The article starts by saying that they want to demonstrate that Mozilla is not the sole entity behind rust. After that, the very first reason they give for wanting to start a foundation is to sign contracts. > Lately, though, the Rust project has started to hit the limits of what Mozilla can reasonably support. One common example that arises is the need to have some entity that can legally sign contracts “for the Rust project”. For example, we wished recently to sign up for Github’s Token Scanning program, but we weren’t able to figure out who ought to sign the contract.

neiman 7y ago

I didn't meant the DAO to be an actor outside the legal system. The difficulty of answering your remark is that different legal systems probably have different point of views about it. According to what I was told where I live, I'm allowed to organize activities, even such involved payments, with other people without registering an organization. Especially if those other people come from different countries. As long as I'm declaring my full income and pay taxes. Such a thing limits what a DAO can do - for example, it can't sign agreements with regular companies (it's not a legal entity) or it cannot employ people. But as long as you don't do such things, I was told it is allowed. I'm being careful with such statements since I'm not a lawyer. You may see DAOs as a legal alternative for civil agreements, which are really difficult to make for individuals in the international market.

reificator 7y ago
> Such a thing limits what a DAO can do - for example, it can't sign agreements with regular companies (it's not a legal entity) or it cannot employ people. The article starts by saying that they want to demonstrate that Mozilla is not the sole entity behind rust. After that, the very first reason they give for wanting to start a foundation is to sign contracts. > Lately, though, the Rust project has started to hit the limits of what Mozilla can reasonably support. One common example that arises is the need to have some entity that can legally sign contracts “for the Rust project”. For example, we wished recently to sign up for Github’s Token Scanning program, but we weren’t able to figure out who ought to sign the contract.