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I understand what you are saying, but this is a mainstream story, easily searchable with DDG from hints in the comment, covered by both Washington Post and New
by Ensorceled 7y ago
I understand what you are saying, but this is a mainstream story, easily searchable with DDG from hints in the comment, covered by both Washington Post and New York Times as well as being splashed all over Business Insider, Mashable, The Verge, etc. etc.
This is not the comment to be fighting this battle with.
- bennyg 7y agoYou spent so long typing out this reply without providing the citation, when you agree with the request for citations? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/08/business/media/teen-vogue-facebook.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/08/business/media/teen-vogue... for those that are curious.
- Ensorceled 7y agoI agree with providing citations if the situation warrants it. This comment is an aside with a recent, topical, well covered and easily verifiable anecdote, a citation is not needed or warranted. This is NOT the hill for citation fanatics to die on. [edit] also another comment had already provided a citation, in fact the citation you provided, so you or I providing the citation was unnecessary so I don't understand your point
- GhettoMaestro 7y agoThank you. Most folks who do the “citation please” routine are derailing the conversation. Citation is needed for esoteric, hard to find, or over the top claims. For regular, mainstream, well reported events, citations aren’t needed. Google it for Christ’s sake.
- creaghpatr 7y agoThe first part of the comment is true, but then unfortunately used to prop up a false claim: >All the while we've learned that they have utterly sold the company to international electioneers. This is disinformation, laundered with the trust of the first comment.
- Ensorceled 7y agoI wasn't agreeing with the original claim, though it's probably somewhat accurate, nor that this news item supports that claim. Just disputing that a citation was required for that claim in this forum.
- mistermann 7y ago> Just disputing that a citation was required for that claim in this forum. The ask was: "Citations to your references would be appreciated." It's true that a citation is not needed, but including one adds value, in that it increases efficiency.
- Ensorceled 7y agoCurious what wording you would have liked from me here? > Just disputing that a citation was appreciated for that claim in this forum. There is no word to replace required that wouldn't be open to your complaint; e.g. needed, necessary, Yes, a citation would always be appreciated, but it's gate keeping to ask people to always provide citations when not truly necessary.
- mistermann 7y ago> There is no word to replace required that wouldn't be open to your complaint; e.g. needed, necessary Appreciated is an appropriate word, you subconsciously swapped in required. A citation is required if the goal is to maximize constructive communication - if that's the goal, of course.
- Ensorceled 7y agoYou missed my point, I deliberately swapped so you could see how that word doesn't work. Clearly we are talking by each other on this.
- mistermann 7y ago
- arbitrary_name 7y agoThis became the comment to be fighting with - why write two lines of text instead of just providing the goddamn link???
- Ensorceled 7y agoBecause I don't like gate keeping or tone policing. I'm sorry we didn't participate in this conversation in the manner you wanted us to.