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Mudita Pure: a modern take on a classic phone

32 points by nbrempel 7y ago

Vxss 7y ago
I don't see the solution that this phone offers that can't be resolved by purchasing older generation phones. It looks aesthetically beautiful and the technology behind is great, but it's a solution looking for a problem. Like all the concentration apps/services that people are installing, turning off is a problem of the mind/body that can't be fixed by going 'we need more tech up in here'.
rusticpenn 7y ago
The problem is that, I use skype and whatsapp and my primary contact points and I need these in a basic phone.
- peatmoss 7y ago
  If the goal is purely to limit distraction on the device, a lack of maps is another deal-breaker for me on any phone.
  - rusticpenn 7y ago
    Self Control is an art, however my goal is not to limit distraction, but to have a small feature phone ( whatsapp, skype, gps (maps)) and a nice tablet for everything else. The requirements are being met by smartwatches+ smartphones+tablets but that is one too many devices for me.
- mwachs 7y ago
  Whatsapp and Maps (and Assistant) are available on the new KaiOS flip phone: https://www.pcmag.com/review/371112/alcatel-go-flip-3 https://www.pcmag.com/review/371112/alcatel-go-flip-3 You can get the prepaid version at Best Buy for like $30.
- SubuSS 7y ago
  Take a look at Unihertz Atom - that's my current choice. It is a smartphone that can do it all, but has an annoyingly tiny screen so you won't sit on it for life.
  - rusticpenn 7y ago
    Do you have any issues with its battery life or apps not fitting on screen ?
    - SubuSS 7y ago
      Nothing blocking right now - The battery lasts over a day. Some apps are weird, but you get used to it.
dangus 7y ago
Another expensive phone like The Light Phone that seems to ignore the existence of feature phones. $300 is vastly overpriced for either this or The Light Phone. On top of that, you have to deal with a long wait and a company without any sort of track record. What you really want is $80 basic cell phone that’s already sold by the likes of Nokia, Alcatel, etc and given away for free by prepaid phone carriers. The disturbing part is that the “premium” features of this phone are sold as snake oil for the paranoid. > You can choose between white light and the sunset light, which is closer to red. It promotes the secretion of melatonin, resulting in an improved sleeping quality. Let me get this straight, they’re claiming that this phone’s flashlight will help you secrete melatonin? That’s a big fat “citation needed” and an outright lie. A low SAR value is similarly not a feature. Are they even being specific about how their value compares to other phones? They seem to just say “ours is lower, trust us.” And their SAR page is incredibly misleading, and even though it’s very long it doesn’t even seem to tell us what the value is for this phone. Is it lower than a typical iPhone? We don’t know. We are just treated to a bunch of WiFi sensitivity paranoia and what I can only assume are misleading citations of scientific studies. > That is not to say that extended exposure to non-ionizing radiation isn’t harmful, we know that it is. I don’t know that it is. You’re telling me that it is to try and sell a $300 feature phone, on IndieGoGo, where you can just take my money and run.
- EricRiese 7y ago
  You're behind the times on the red light/melatonin feature. It's now built into probably every major OS. Windows calls it Night Light. Apple calls it Night Shift. Android calls it Night Mode. I used to use the f.lux app on Linux but now it's built into GNOME. Try it out, it's pretty easy to feel the difference, IMO.
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  - agucova 7y ago
    I don't think he is talking about the screen, they advertise it for both the flashlight and the backlight. The quote comes from the flashlight of the phone, which has two models, one white and another "sunlight-like" for melatonin. But the whole thing makes me wonder, who uses the flashlight that much (near her eyes) for it to even start affecting your circadian rhythm. TL;DR: The screen sure, the flashlight, I doubt it.
atonse 7y ago
Genuine question for radio/medical people here. Is there any value in advertising less "radiation exposure"? I thought this was an answered question, that cell phone radiation is non-ionizing and has no health effects. And also, even if your cell phone isn't projecting, you're bathing in cell tower waves all the time (which is why you have a signal). I'm sure the inverse square law probably applies here as far as strength but the overall point holds, correct?
- m0w 7y ago
  non-ionizing does not mean no health effects. this is the lie.
cody-code 7y ago
I would actually be interested in something like this if it were open source. But as it is I actually need a few services like telegram to be on my phone, and here I can’t even program it into the messages app myself.
acd 7y ago
I have a caterpillar b35 phone. Battery last long. You don’t fiddle and waste time with it. Also has an iPhone. It’s good to relearn to be offline. Ie not a mobile phone zombie :).
b34r 7y ago
I really hate that the screen is a different color from the chassis
nikolay 7y ago
One can buy a brand-new Nokia 10X phone for about $25.

32 points by nbrempel 7y ago

Vxss 7y ago

I don't see the solution that this phone offers that can't be resolved by purchasing older generation phones. It looks aesthetically beautiful and the technology behind is great, but it's a solution looking for a problem. Like all the concentration apps/services that people are installing, turning off is a problem of the mind/body that can't be fixed by going 'we need more tech up in here'.

rusticpenn 7y ago

The problem is that, I use skype and whatsapp and my primary contact points and I need these in a basic phone.

peatmoss 7y ago
If the goal is purely to limit distraction on the device, a lack of maps is another deal-breaker for me on any phone.
- rusticpenn 7y ago
  Self Control is an art, however my goal is not to limit distraction, but to have a small feature phone ( whatsapp, skype, gps (maps)) and a nice tablet for everything else. The requirements are being met by smartwatches+ smartphones+tablets but that is one too many devices for me.
mwachs 7y ago
Whatsapp and Maps (and Assistant) are available on the new KaiOS flip phone: https://www.pcmag.com/review/371112/alcatel-go-flip-3 https://www.pcmag.com/review/371112/alcatel-go-flip-3 You can get the prepaid version at Best Buy for like $30.
SubuSS 7y ago
Take a look at Unihertz Atom - that's my current choice. It is a smartphone that can do it all, but has an annoyingly tiny screen so you won't sit on it for life.
- rusticpenn 7y ago
  Do you have any issues with its battery life or apps not fitting on screen ?
  - SubuSS 7y ago
    Nothing blocking right now - The battery lasts over a day. Some apps are weird, but you get used to it.

dangus 7y ago

Another expensive phone like The Light Phone that seems to ignore the existence of feature phones. $300 is vastly overpriced for either this or The Light Phone. On top of that, you have to deal with a long wait and a company without any sort of track record. What you really want is $80 basic cell phone that’s already sold by the likes of Nokia, Alcatel, etc and given away for free by prepaid phone carriers. The disturbing part is that the “premium” features of this phone are sold as snake oil for the paranoid. > You can choose between white light and the sunset light, which is closer to red. It promotes the secretion of melatonin, resulting in an improved sleeping quality. Let me get this straight, they’re claiming that this phone’s flashlight will help you secrete melatonin? That’s a big fat “citation needed” and an outright lie. A low SAR value is similarly not a feature. Are they even being specific about how their value compares to other phones? They seem to just say “ours is lower, trust us.” And their SAR page is incredibly misleading, and even though it’s very long it doesn’t even seem to tell us what the value is for this phone. Is it lower than a typical iPhone? We don’t know. We are just treated to a bunch of WiFi sensitivity paranoia and what I can only assume are misleading citations of scientific studies. > That is not to say that extended exposure to non-ionizing radiation isn’t harmful, we know that it is. I don’t know that it is. You’re telling me that it is to try and sell a $300 feature phone, on IndieGoGo, where you can just take my money and run.

EricRiese 7y ago
You're behind the times on the red light/melatonin feature. It's now built into probably every major OS. Windows calls it Night Light. Apple calls it Night Shift. Android calls it Night Mode. I used to use the f.lux app on Linux but now it's built into GNOME. Try it out, it's pretty easy to feel the difference, IMO.
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- agucova 7y ago
  I don't think he is talking about the screen, they advertise it for both the flashlight and the backlight. The quote comes from the flashlight of the phone, which has two models, one white and another "sunlight-like" for melatonin. But the whole thing makes me wonder, who uses the flashlight that much (near her eyes) for it to even start affecting your circadian rhythm. TL;DR: The screen sure, the flashlight, I doubt it.

atonse 7y ago

Genuine question for radio/medical people here. Is there any value in advertising less "radiation exposure"? I thought this was an answered question, that cell phone radiation is non-ionizing and has no health effects. And also, even if your cell phone isn't projecting, you're bathing in cell tower waves all the time (which is why you have a signal). I'm sure the inverse square law probably applies here as far as strength but the overall point holds, correct?

m0w 7y ago
non-ionizing does not mean no health effects. this is the lie.

cody-code 7y ago

I would actually be interested in something like this if it were open source. But as it is I actually need a few services like telegram to be on my phone, and here I can’t even program it into the messages app myself.

acd 7y ago

I have a caterpillar b35 phone. Battery last long. You don’t fiddle and waste time with it. Also has an iPhone. It’s good to relearn to be offline. Ie not a mobile phone zombie :).

b34r 7y ago

I really hate that the screen is a different color from the chassis

nikolay 7y ago

One can buy a brand-new Nokia 10X phone for about $25.