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I find this post a bit ironic considering you built a 1.1 MB React app to display an image and a bit of text (and the image itself isn't even included in the re

I find this post a bit ironic considering you built a 1.1 MB React app to display an image and a bit of text (and the image itself isn't even included in the repository).

zamadatix 7y ago
Dear lord it even loads a service worker so it can cache the app.
- deleted 7y ago
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- dwaltrip 7y ago
  That is included by default in create-react-app.
  - sondr3 7y ago
    It is included but disabled by default[0]. [0]: https://create-react-app.dev/docs/making-a-progressive-web-app https://create-react-app.dev/docs/making-a-progressive-web-a...
asdfaoeu 7y ago
I mean that's smaller than the average of the top 100 modules.
Frost1x 7y ago
I don't find it ironic anymore, I find it the state of affairs in modern development environments. I'm always surprised how quickly people jump to using massive scaffolding, systems, or systems of systems to accomplish things that need about two orders of magnitude less complexity. Then again, it seems people that develop these monstrosities are never the ones to maintain them.
- jgalt212 7y ago
  built in job security (if not for the original dev), but for those that come after the dev0.
- sidlls 7y ago
  Don't underestimate managers who "encourage" unnecessary complexity to boost their own profile. Their direct reports have to "design" and then implement and maintain them. Then the manager gets a higher profile for managing teams that build and design "critical", complex systems. There is a lot of blame to go around in this industry--it isn't just individual engineers acting out of ignorance or resume building.
- ttty 7y ago
  You're missing out the bug picture. All my projects started small. But day after day, you need a be feature and a new thing. It will grow. At that point you need to add these tools yourself, manually. I rather have a standard baseline to be up to speed and don't get bothered with this on each app.
  - mark_and_sweep 7y ago
    > You're missing out the bug picture. Is this a Freudian slip? The amount of bugs in "modern web apps" seems rather huge indeed. > I rather have a standard baseline to be up to speed To me, the baseline for any kind of website or web app is, you know, HTML. When authoring static HTML or rendering it dynamically on the server, I'm up to speed instantly.
  - rhizome 7y ago
    The graybeards called that "creeping featuritis."
Dockson 7y ago
Where are you getting 1.1 MB from? I'm getting 223 KB over the wire, which includes a 100 KB image.
- pixelbath 7y ago
  I cloned the repository for the site. Over-the-wire, though, I do get around 227 KB.

I find this post a bit ironic considering you built a 1.1 MB React app to display an image and a bit of text (and the image itself isn't even included in the repository).

zamadatix 7y ago

Dear lord it even loads a service worker so it can cache the app.

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dwaltrip 7y ago
That is included by default in create-react-app.
- sondr3 7y ago
  It is included but disabled by default[0]. [0]: https://create-react-app.dev/docs/making-a-progressive-web-app https://create-react-app.dev/docs/making-a-progressive-web-a...

asdfaoeu 7y ago

I mean that's smaller than the average of the top 100 modules.

Frost1x 7y ago

I don't find it ironic anymore, I find it the state of affairs in modern development environments. I'm always surprised how quickly people jump to using massive scaffolding, systems, or systems of systems to accomplish things that need about two orders of magnitude less complexity. Then again, it seems people that develop these monstrosities are never the ones to maintain them.

jgalt212 7y ago
built in job security (if not for the original dev), but for those that come after the dev0.
sidlls 7y ago
Don't underestimate managers who "encourage" unnecessary complexity to boost their own profile. Their direct reports have to "design" and then implement and maintain them. Then the manager gets a higher profile for managing teams that build and design "critical", complex systems. There is a lot of blame to go around in this industry--it isn't just individual engineers acting out of ignorance or resume building.
ttty 7y ago
You're missing out the bug picture. All my projects started small. But day after day, you need a be feature and a new thing. It will grow. At that point you need to add these tools yourself, manually. I rather have a standard baseline to be up to speed and don't get bothered with this on each app.
- mark_and_sweep 7y ago
  > You're missing out the bug picture. Is this a Freudian slip? The amount of bugs in "modern web apps" seems rather huge indeed. > I rather have a standard baseline to be up to speed To me, the baseline for any kind of website or web app is, you know, HTML. When authoring static HTML or rendering it dynamically on the server, I'm up to speed instantly.
- rhizome 7y ago
  The graybeards called that "creeping featuritis."

Dockson 7y ago

Where are you getting 1.1 MB from? I'm getting 223 KB over the wire, which includes a 100 KB image.

pixelbath 7y ago
I cloned the repository for the site. Over-the-wire, though, I do get around 227 KB.