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I suppose the current generation consoles are still on 12nm, but that must be ramping down at this point. PS5 and Xbox-something are a going to be big chunk of
by jagger27 7y ago
I suppose the current generation consoles are still on 12nm, but that must be ramping down at this point. PS5 and Xbox-something are a going to be big chunk of the 7nm capacity (30,000 wafers/mo) AMD took over from Apple, since they’re moving to TSMC’s next node for the next iPhone.
AdoredTV recently did a rough breakdown of how many wafers it’ll take for each product line. Epyc only needs about 1,500 wafers from TSMC since the chiplets are so high yield. Desktop and the new high end laptop parts don’t need much more. What boggles my mind is that between the new consoles they’ll need something like 10,000 wafers per month if this generation’s sales are on par with last generation. I guess it’s a nice way for TSMC to keep 7nm production up as Apple, AMD, and the other big ARM players move onto better nodes.
Edit: the consoles take so many wafers because they’re going to be giant monolithic APU designs somewhere in the 400mm^2 range.
- paulmd 7y agoRamping down, sure, but they'll keep going a long time for production for the developing world. Consoles have extremely long lifespans in places like South America, India, and Africa, where $600 might be your entire yearly income. You're not going to race out and buy a PS5 on that. It can be somewhat surprising but PS3 production was only discontinued in 2017, Xbox 360 production was discontinued in 2016. https://www.eteknix.com/playstation-3-officially-discontinued-sony/ https://www.eteknix.com/playstation-3-officially-discontinue... http://news.xbox.com/2016/04/20/xbox-360-celebrating-10-years/ http://news.xbox.com/2016/04/20/xbox-360-celebrating-10-year...