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What's not legal? Requiring that a worker be at their desk at a certain time? Doubt it. Now if they're not getting paid for the time when they're setting up, I
by asdfasgasdgasdg 7y ago
What's not legal? Requiring that a worker be at their desk at a certain time? Doubt it. Now if they're not getting paid for the time when they're setting up, I agree that's probably not legal.
- p1necone 7y ago"Scheduled to be in at 10am" implies "paid from 10am" to me.
- MereInterest 7y agoTrue, but that also means that you should not expect an employee to be productive immediately at 10am. "Paid from 10am" means that the expectation is to be walking in the door at 10am, on average. If you want the employee to be set up by 10am, that costs extra.
- eloisant 7y agoYes that's the issue, if your shift starts at 10am it means you start working at 10am, and setup is part of your work.
- voxic11 7y ago> According to the regulations interpreting the FLSA, “a stenographer who reads a book while waiting for dictation, a messenger who works a crossword puzzle while awaiting assignments, [a] fireman who plays checkers while waiting for alarms and a factory worker who talks to his fellow employees while waiting for machinery to be repaired are all working during their periods of inactivity.” Since these employees are unable to effectively use the time spent waiting for their own purposes, the time essentially belongs to and is controlled by the employer. Accordingly, in all of these examples, the time spent waiting is an integral part of the job. As such, the employees are engaged to wait, and are therefore entitled to be compensated for their time. https://www.thehumanequation.com/en/news_rss/articles/2010/waiting-to-be-engaged-or-engaged-to-wait-the-fair-labor-standards-act-makes-a-distinction-do-you.aspx https://www.thehumanequation.com/en/news_rss/articles/2010/w...
- sixstringtheory 7y agoHow about compiling software? https://xkcd.com/303/ https://xkcd.com/303/
- jdofaz 7y agoI don't know if that is still true https://slate.com/business/2014/12/supreme-court-rules-against-paying-workers-for-security-screenings-amazon-will-benefit-from-decision.html https://slate.com/business/2014/12/supreme-court-rules-again...
- tehwebguy 7y agoI think this is maybe the most egregious instance of this, can’t imagine how this case was decided the wrong way.
- thiagomgd 7y agoYou are your desk at the start time. But if you need to turn on your computer, log in the the system, start things...
- MereInterest 7y agoEven more than that, the clock starts when you walk through the front door (portal to portal). If the travel time to the actual work site is long, such as a very large campus, or a miner's trip from the mine entrance to the active dig site, then that is time that should be on the clock.
- JohnFen 7y ago> What's not legal? If nothing else, I think the part where you are expected to start working before you start getting paid sounds pretty sketchy.