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I don't mind reaching being done on my DNA. Where 23andMe crosses lines is let people search the archives that still contain all the PII attached, such as polic

I don't mind reaching being done on my DNA. Where 23andMe crosses lines is let people search the archives that still contain all the PII attached, such as police departments. That is a breach of trust.

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dahinds 7y ago
We've never done that. https://www.23andme.com/transparency-report/ https://www.23andme.com/transparency-report/
- rckoepke 7y ago
  That's a great transparency report and I'm stoked to see that you actually appear to actively fight invalid legal requests for data. According to your "Guide for Law Enforcement"[0] ... It's really just by luck/coincidence that you can even claim "We've never done that". Again - it's nice and mildly surprising to see that you haven't received an NSL yet. But I would bet $1,000 to charity that you will be legally forced/required/obligated to provide some PII/DNA data to law enforcement in the next 10 years. A question: DNA samples, in a vacuum, don't seem particularly useful (even with a name/face attached). Does 23&Me aggregate medical histories to associate with DNA samples? If so, where do they get the medical data for specific individuals? [0]: https://www.23andme.com/law-enforcement-guide/ https://www.23andme.com/law-enforcement-guide/
  - dahinds 7y ago
    Customers can opt in to participate in our research program, and can then choose to provide additional information by i.e. filling out surveys.
toomuchtodo 7y ago
You're thinking of GEDmatch, which was recently sold. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/06/gedmatch-police-genealogy-database/561695/ https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/06/gedmatch... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-owner-consumer-dna-database-gedmatch-vows-fight-police-search-n1099091 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-owner-consumer-dna-...

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I don't mind reaching being done on my DNA. Where 23andMe crosses lines is let people search the archives that still contain all the PII attached, such as polic

by georgyo 7y ago

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dahinds 7y ago
We've never done that. https://www.23andme.com/transparency-report/ https://www.23andme.com/transparency-report/
- rckoepke 7y ago
  That's a great transparency report and I'm stoked to see that you actually appear to actively fight invalid legal requests for data. According to your "Guide for Law Enforcement"[0] ... It's really just by luck/coincidence that you can even claim "We've never done that". Again - it's nice and mildly surprising to see that you haven't received an NSL yet. But I would bet $1,000 to charity that you will be legally forced/required/obligated to provide some PII/DNA data to law enforcement in the next 10 years. A question: DNA samples, in a vacuum, don't seem particularly useful (even with a name/face attached). Does 23&Me aggregate medical histories to associate with DNA samples? If so, where do they get the medical data for specific individuals? [0]: https://www.23andme.com/law-enforcement-guide/ https://www.23andme.com/law-enforcement-guide/
  - dahinds 7y ago
    Customers can opt in to participate in our research program, and can then choose to provide additional information by i.e. filling out surveys.
toomuchtodo 7y ago
You're thinking of GEDmatch, which was recently sold. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/06/gedmatch-police-genealogy-database/561695/ https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/06/gedmatch... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-owner-consumer-dna-database-gedmatch-vows-fight-police-search-n1099091 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-owner-consumer-dna-...