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I have a custom domain with Gandi and take advantage of their mail forwarding option to forward the emails sent to the custom domain (my “no lock-in” email addr

I have a custom domain with Gandi and take advantage of their mail forwarding option to forward the emails sent to the custom domain (my “no lock-in” email address) to my personal Gmail account. Considering how critical email is for me, seems like I won’t be trusting their MX servers to process all my inbound mail anymore and will soon be looking for another solution that works well with Gmail (don’t want to pay for GSuite), and possibly also transfer my domain to another registrar. That support tweet is such bad taste.

fchu 7y ago
Depending on your email volumes, mailgun could be a viable alternative
- deanmoriarty 7y ago
  Thanks, I'll absolutely look into this soon.
blibble 7y ago
gandi's response notwithstanding: email is hardly reliable unless you run all the MXes (and can prove otherwise): you're likely having emails dropped all the time already
- deanmoriarty 7y ago
  For sure, but everything is relative. Ignoring for a second the lock-in factor of using a @gmail.com address, I would trust Google's MX servers any day over Gandi's, especially after this last incident (trust == reliability in this context).
  - blibble 7y ago
    Google's MXes are notoriously strict and drop or permanently delay emails all the time for reasons beyond your control as a recipient an example from 5 minutes ago from one of my MX'es (which only forwards, after heavy greylisting and spam filtering): Jan 9 18:05:59 mail postfix/smtp[26197]: to=<ABC@gmail.com>, orig_to=<XYZ>, relay=alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.233.26]:25, delay=25000, delays=25000/0.01/1.6/0.16, dsn=4.7.0, status=deferred (host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.233.26] said: 421-4.7.0 Our system has detected that this message is 421-4.7.0 suspicious due to the very low reputation of the sending domain. To 421-4.7.0 best protect our users from spam, the message has been blocked. 421-4.7.0 Please visit 421 4.7.0 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131 for more information. ABC - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command)) that's not my reputation (which is high), that's the reputation of the sender's From address and it doesn't send it to the spam folder, it just delays the email forever until my MX gives up
    - deanmoriarty 7y ago
      Interesting. Would you be of the opinion that sending mail from my personal @gmail.com address would then have much higher chances of being successfully delivered to other people (most of which will inevitably be at another @gmail.com address) than those sent from my "portable" @custom.domain address?
      - blibble 7y ago
        if you're sending it inside the gmail interface to a gmail address I doubt it makes any difference sending to outside gmail I suspect it will count against you (though major providers likely have special treatment for Google's MXes)

fchu 7y ago

Depending on your email volumes, mailgun could be a viable alternative

deanmoriarty 7y ago
Thanks, I'll absolutely look into this soon.

blibble 7y ago

gandi's response notwithstanding: email is hardly reliable unless you run all the MXes (and can prove otherwise): you're likely having emails dropped all the time already

deanmoriarty 7y ago
For sure, but everything is relative. Ignoring for a second the lock-in factor of using a @gmail.com address, I would trust Google's MX servers any day over Gandi's, especially after this last incident (trust == reliability in this context).
- blibble 7y ago
  Google's MXes are notoriously strict and drop or permanently delay emails all the time for reasons beyond your control as a recipient an example from 5 minutes ago from one of my MX'es (which only forwards, after heavy greylisting and spam filtering): Jan 9 18:05:59 mail postfix/smtp[26197]: to=<ABC@gmail.com>, orig_to=<XYZ>, relay=alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.233.26]:25, delay=25000, delays=25000/0.01/1.6/0.16, dsn=4.7.0, status=deferred (host alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.233.26] said: 421-4.7.0 Our system has detected that this message is 421-4.7.0 suspicious due to the very low reputation of the sending domain. To 421-4.7.0 best protect our users from spam, the message has been blocked. 421-4.7.0 Please visit 421 4.7.0 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131 for more information. ABC - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command)) that's not my reputation (which is high), that's the reputation of the sender's From address and it doesn't send it to the spam folder, it just delays the email forever until my MX gives up
  - deanmoriarty 7y ago
    Interesting. Would you be of the opinion that sending mail from my personal @gmail.com address would then have much higher chances of being successfully delivered to other people (most of which will inevitably be at another @gmail.com address) than those sent from my "portable" @custom.domain address?
    - blibble 7y ago
      if you're sending it inside the gmail interface to a gmail address I doubt it makes any difference sending to outside gmail I suspect it will count against you (though major providers likely have special treatment for Google's MXes)