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The main thing isn't really about it being preferable, feature-wise - it's that it's the future of cross platform apps. If I could have apps like Photoshop or A

The main thing isn't really about it being preferable, feature-wise - it's that it's the future of cross platform apps. If I could have apps like Photoshop or Ableton on Windows, Linux, Mac, ChromeOS, Android, etc - and they all work the same, that's a huge win all around.

dmitriid 7y ago
First, you'd have to provide the web with 90% missing features that make such apps possible. And then make them available to PWAs. So no, it's not the future.
- untog 7y ago
  The vast majority of native apps need next-to-no extra features on top of what the web provides. Facebook, Uber, Seamless, etc. etc... all they really need is an internet connection and location. And the web provides that.
  - dmitriid 7y ago
    The post I was replying to specifically said: > If I could have apps like Photoshop or Ableton... These apps require way way more than just internet connection and location. For example, you might have to implement your own renderers from scratch: https://www.figma.com/blog/building-a-professional-design-tool-on-the-web/ https://www.figma.com/blog/building-a-professional-design-to...
- abraham 7y ago
  There is extensive work being done to bring more native APIs to the Web https://www.chromium.org/teams/web-capabilities-fugu https://www.chromium.org/teams/web-capabilities-fugu
  - dmitriid 7y ago
    I wouldn't count on any other browser to be anywhere onboard with that. Chrome is known for implementing things in a quick and dirty way with complete disregard for input. Also, Fugu will definitely no bring a signinficant amount of native APIs to the web. Here's the full list [1] For example, the post I'm replying to mentioned Ableton. Well "I don’t know who the Web Audio API is designed for" [2] Oh, and then there's no guarantee Chrome will not break it the way it broke automatic audio previously [3] The web is not the long-term future for any foreseeable future [1] https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?can=2&q=proj-fugu&sort=pri&colspec=ID+Pri+M+Stars+ReleaseBlock+Component+Status+Owner+Summary+OS+Modified&x=m&y=releaseblock&cells=ids https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?can=2&q=pro... [2] https://blog.mecheye.net/2017/09/i-dont-know-who-the-web-audio-api-is-designed-for/ https://blog.mecheye.net/2017/09/i-dont-know-who-the-web-aud... [3] https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/993627449991688193?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E993627449991688193&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcgamer.com%2Fa-google-chrome-update-breaks-the-audio-in-numerous-web-based-games%2F https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/993627449991688193?ref...

dmitriid 7y ago

First, you'd have to provide the web with 90% missing features that make such apps possible. And then make them available to PWAs. So no, it's not the future.

untog 7y ago
The vast majority of native apps need next-to-no extra features on top of what the web provides. Facebook, Uber, Seamless, etc. etc... all they really need is an internet connection and location. And the web provides that.
- dmitriid 7y ago
  The post I was replying to specifically said: > If I could have apps like Photoshop or Ableton... These apps require way way more than just internet connection and location. For example, you might have to implement your own renderers from scratch: https://www.figma.com/blog/building-a-professional-design-tool-on-the-web/ https://www.figma.com/blog/building-a-professional-design-to...
abraham 7y ago
There is extensive work being done to bring more native APIs to the Web https://www.chromium.org/teams/web-capabilities-fugu https://www.chromium.org/teams/web-capabilities-fugu
- dmitriid 7y ago
  I wouldn't count on any other browser to be anywhere onboard with that. Chrome is known for implementing things in a quick and dirty way with complete disregard for input. Also, Fugu will definitely no bring a signinficant amount of native APIs to the web. Here's the full list [1] For example, the post I'm replying to mentioned Ableton. Well "I don’t know who the Web Audio API is designed for" [2] Oh, and then there's no guarantee Chrome will not break it the way it broke automatic audio previously [3] The web is not the long-term future for any foreseeable future [1] https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?can=2&q=proj-fugu&sort=pri&colspec=ID+Pri+M+Stars+ReleaseBlock+Component+Status+Owner+Summary+OS+Modified&x=m&y=releaseblock&cells=ids https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?can=2&q=pro... [2] https://blog.mecheye.net/2017/09/i-dont-know-who-the-web-audio-api-is-designed-for/ https://blog.mecheye.net/2017/09/i-dont-know-who-the-web-aud... [3] https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/993627449991688193?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E993627449991688193&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcgamer.com%2Fa-google-chrome-update-breaks-the-audio-in-numerous-web-based-games%2F https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/993627449991688193?ref...