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Java is getting two new low latency collectors. golang is stuck with a GC that favors latency over throughput, making it not suited for high throughput processi

by apta 7y ago

Java is getting two new low latency collectors. golang is stuck with a GC that favors latency over throughput, making it not suited for high throughput processing.

hu3 7y ago
By stuck you mean Go devs made the sensible decision to have only one, zero configuration, ultra low latency, Garbage Collector that suits Go's common use cases instead of trying to be jack of all trades having many GC's each with their pletora of knobs to adjust.
- apta 7y ago
  It means that golang is relegated to simple server side tools, and not suited for a broader range of programs like the JVM is.
  - hu3 7y ago
    Yep. Go has a focus. That's how you get from zero to heavy usage in companies like Uber, Twitter, Cloudflare, BBC, Basecamp, Canonical etc... in less than a decade.
    - apta 7y ago
      You'd be surprised at the extent hype influences decision making when it comes to choosing which language to use (even in companies you mentioned), at a significant cost down the line. I'll just say I know people at one of the companies you mentioned, and the amount of friction and cost due to them using golang is quite remarkable.
      - hu3 7y ago
        No offense but I'd rather trust the engineers of all these companies combined over an anecdote on the internet. Not to mention technology change always generate friction. You just can't please everyone.
        pjmlp 7y ago
        Assuming those engineers were making sound decisions and not pimping up the CVs at employers' expense.
        apta 7y ago
        Exactly what happened at the company I'm talking about.
    - pjmlp 7y ago
      The same kind of companies that were all hyped up on Ruby on Rails, and then moved to Java when performance mattered. Hype driven development is a thing.
      - hu3 7y ago
        Given a large enough sample size, there will always be companies which ditched technology X for Y. Unless technology X is irrelevantant.
- aratakareigen 7y ago
  This is not a sensible decision, it is an idealistic one, and Go will backtrack on it if it lives long enough. People have different use cases, and they will be more than willing to turn a few knobs if it saves them millions of dollars.

by apta 7y ago

Java is getting two new low latency collectors. golang is stuck with a GC that favors latency over throughput, making it not suited for high throughput processing.

hu3 7y ago

By stuck you mean Go devs made the sensible decision to have only one, zero configuration, ultra low latency, Garbage Collector that suits Go's common use cases instead of trying to be jack of all trades having many GC's each with their pletora of knobs to adjust.

apta 7y ago
It means that golang is relegated to simple server side tools, and not suited for a broader range of programs like the JVM is.
- hu3 7y ago
  Yep. Go has a focus. That's how you get from zero to heavy usage in companies like Uber, Twitter, Cloudflare, BBC, Basecamp, Canonical etc... in less than a decade.
  - apta 7y ago
    You'd be surprised at the extent hype influences decision making when it comes to choosing which language to use (even in companies you mentioned), at a significant cost down the line. I'll just say I know people at one of the companies you mentioned, and the amount of friction and cost due to them using golang is quite remarkable.
    - hu3 7y ago
      No offense but I'd rather trust the engineers of all these companies combined over an anecdote on the internet. Not to mention technology change always generate friction. You just can't please everyone.
      - pjmlp 7y ago
        Assuming those engineers were making sound decisions and not pimping up the CVs at employers' expense.
        apta 7y ago
        Exactly what happened at the company I'm talking about.
  - pjmlp 7y ago
    The same kind of companies that were all hyped up on Ruby on Rails, and then moved to Java when performance mattered. Hype driven development is a thing.
    - hu3 7y ago
      Given a large enough sample size, there will always be companies which ditched technology X for Y. Unless technology X is irrelevantant.
aratakareigen 7y ago
This is not a sensible decision, it is an idealistic one, and Go will backtrack on it if it lives long enough. People have different use cases, and they will be more than willing to turn a few knobs if it saves them millions of dollars.