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The Fukushima accident had more to do with the culture in Japan than the industry globally[1]. The government and the regulator were basically in bed with TEPC

The Fukushima accident had more to do with the culture in Japan than the industry globally[1]. The government and the regulator were basically in bed with TEPCO. 1. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/17/japanese-government-liable-negligence-fukushima-daiichi-nuclear-disaster https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/...

mikeyouse 7y ago
Do you think that this is somehow unique to Japan? How close do you think regulators and operators are in the US? Is there any industry that even remotely seems like it has a healthy relationship with its oversight bodies?
- Melting_Harps 7y ago
  > Do you think that this is somehow unique to Japan? How close do you think regulators and operators are in the US? Is there any industry that even remotely seems like it has a healthy relationship with its oversight bodies? Yes, and no. TEPCO, and The Nuclear Village are strong powerful entities and lobbyists in Japanese Society. But it was the 'Japanese' way of not asking the global community for help that ultimately ensured that the Abe Government and its subsequent action would take the act of secrecy in the face of one of Man's biggest ecological disasters. Very, look at how much influence Edison and SONGS have over the Judicial system, and I will remind you San Onofre is home to some of the most expensive real estate in all of the US: https://www.ocregister.com/2019/12/11/edisons-nuclear-canisters-at-san-onofre-plant-letters/ https://www.ocregister.com/2019/12/11/edisons-nuclear-canist... Perhaps, but business interests are always messy things within centralized governance models and I can go on my tirade for the imperative need for Anarcho-Capitalism, but to be honest if someone like Trump hasn't already made it clear to you that these imbeciles (they're all the same) in power will march us off to extinction for yourself, then my arguments will fall on deaf ears.
hardoncollider 7y ago
If the US inspections of offshore oil rigs are any indication of our lack of ability to fix things obviously broken, I can't imagine nuclear power plants would be any different, except the risk in a nuclear scenario would be amplified. Indeed, this does follow a global pattern.
microtherion 7y ago
While in the US, a nuclear reactor would be: * Approved by Donald Trump * Regulated (until last month) by Rick Perry * Constructed by companies like Halliburton and Bechtel * Operated by utilities like PG&E, collaborating with traders like Enron. I don't know about you, but to me, the whole setup does not scream competence, good judgment, incorruptibility, and adherence to the highest ethical standards.
- AJ007 7y ago
  Are you aware Enron went out of business in 2001?
  - microtherion 7y ago
    Indeed I am (that's why I wrote "like"), but they were the household name in the field. Frankly, I don't know who plays that role now, but how confident are you that they behave fundamentally different, as opposed to just not having been caught yet?

mikeyouse 7y ago

Do you think that this is somehow unique to Japan? How close do you think regulators and operators are in the US? Is there any industry that even remotely seems like it has a healthy relationship with its oversight bodies?

Melting_Harps 7y ago
> Do you think that this is somehow unique to Japan? How close do you think regulators and operators are in the US? Is there any industry that even remotely seems like it has a healthy relationship with its oversight bodies? Yes, and no. TEPCO, and The Nuclear Village are strong powerful entities and lobbyists in Japanese Society. But it was the 'Japanese' way of not asking the global community for help that ultimately ensured that the Abe Government and its subsequent action would take the act of secrecy in the face of one of Man's biggest ecological disasters. Very, look at how much influence Edison and SONGS have over the Judicial system, and I will remind you San Onofre is home to some of the most expensive real estate in all of the US: https://www.ocregister.com/2019/12/11/edisons-nuclear-canisters-at-san-onofre-plant-letters/ https://www.ocregister.com/2019/12/11/edisons-nuclear-canist... Perhaps, but business interests are always messy things within centralized governance models and I can go on my tirade for the imperative need for Anarcho-Capitalism, but to be honest if someone like Trump hasn't already made it clear to you that these imbeciles (they're all the same) in power will march us off to extinction for yourself, then my arguments will fall on deaf ears.

hardoncollider 7y ago

If the US inspections of offshore oil rigs are any indication of our lack of ability to fix things obviously broken, I can't imagine nuclear power plants would be any different, except the risk in a nuclear scenario would be amplified. Indeed, this does follow a global pattern.

microtherion 7y ago

While in the US, a nuclear reactor would be: * Approved by Donald Trump * Regulated (until last month) by Rick Perry * Constructed by companies like Halliburton and Bechtel * Operated by utilities like PG&E, collaborating with traders like Enron. I don't know about you, but to me, the whole setup does not scream competence, good judgment, incorruptibility, and adherence to the highest ethical standards.

AJ007 7y ago
Are you aware Enron went out of business in 2001?
- microtherion 7y ago
  Indeed I am (that's why I wrote "like"), but they were the household name in the field. Frankly, I don't know who plays that role now, but how confident are you that they behave fundamentally different, as opposed to just not having been caught yet?