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This isn't a one-sided stand down. If the US attacks Iran blatantly, sleeper cells around the world would probably be activated. At least this is what it seems

by cheez 7y ago

This isn't a one-sided stand down. If the US attacks Iran blatantly, sleeper cells around the world would probably be activated. At least this is what it seems they signalled.

GordonS 7y ago
Erm... does it? Is there any substance behind this rather odd assumption?
- cheez 7y ago
  It's interesting how history fades.
ping_pong 7y ago
Sorry but this is complete fiction. Sleeper cells around the world? This is Iran, a struggling government not Mission Impossible. There's nothing Iran could or would do that the US doesn't do to itself via mass shootings, wildfires, shitty government policies, etc. If Iran did anything like a terrorist attack on US soil, it would open the door for the US to completely devastate Iran through bombings, etc, and that's not what the Iranian government wants. What they did was probably the smartest thing they could do, which is show explosions on their TVs so say they attacked back, but incur no loss of life to escalate things.
- ceejayoz 7y ago
  Iran has a history of retaliatory attacks of this nature. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMIA_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMIA_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_attacks_on_Israeli_diplomats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_attacks_on_Israeli_diplom...
- cheez 7y ago
  1) Iran isn't a small country. The cost to carpet bomb every square km of Iran would be enormous. Afghanistan is a nickel candy by comparison. 2) Iran has connections with Hezbollah and god knows who else. I would not dismiss the possibility. 3) There are enough people all over the world who would be incensed enough at the US to self radicalize.
  - ping_pong 7y ago
    1) Why on Earth would you carpet bomb every square km of Iran? You attack their infrastructure and their economy. That's about as simplistic as it gets. Carpet bombing the entire country is absurd. If you're old enough to remember the second Iraq War, the level of bombs dropped on Iraq was insane. 2) Iran is Hezbollah. They're basically the same thing. 3) If Iran attacked the US with their fictional "sleeper cells", the world would be completely on the US side. This is why Iran didn't kill a single US soldier in their attacks yesterday.
    - senectus1 7y ago
      lol so many straw-man's going on here...
    - cheez 7y ago
      1) Because it's not enough. See Iraq. How many trillions are you ready to pay for the privilege of another quagmire? 2) ok not sure I was implying different. 3) you missed the point. If the US attacked disproportionately, it is highly unlikely that the USA would have the support of the world. At this point it would be expected for them to retaliate through any means available. Did you see the accuracy of their rocket? It destroyed a specific building at the base. The reason there were no casualties was because Iran told Iraq (who told us) that they were going to attack. No one wants an escalation.
      - ping_pong 7y ago
        1) what are you talking about? The US has no desire to occupy Iran. They would devastate the economy by mass bombing of the infrastructure, and then encourage a new US-friendly leader to lead a coup over the current government. Then they would come in with US companies and have them get paid to fix the infrastructure back. Have you not been paying attention? 2) saying that Iran has connections with the Hezbollah is like saying Trump has connections to the Republicans. Iran IS Hezbollah. There's a difference. 3) I'm not sure what you're arguing at this point. I said the same thing. Iran doesn't want an escalation because they know they can't win. If they caused any US deaths, it would lead to escalating destruction of Iran. You were the one that said "sleeper cells" around the world would start conducting terrorist campaigns or something. But that's absurd and would never happen because if they did, the US would make Iran pay and they would have the support of the world. Obviously dropping a nuke on Iran is out of the question, as is destroying cultural sites, but if these "sleeper cells" killed Americans, you could expect massive damage to Iranian infrastructure that they wouldn't be able to recover from in a timely manner.

by cheez 7y ago

This isn't a one-sided stand down. If the US attacks Iran blatantly, sleeper cells around the world would probably be activated. At least this is what it seems they signalled.

GordonS 7y ago

Erm... does it? Is there any substance behind this rather odd assumption?

cheez 7y ago
It's interesting how history fades.

ping_pong 7y ago

Sorry but this is complete fiction. Sleeper cells around the world? This is Iran, a struggling government not Mission Impossible. There's nothing Iran could or would do that the US doesn't do to itself via mass shootings, wildfires, shitty government policies, etc. If Iran did anything like a terrorist attack on US soil, it would open the door for the US to completely devastate Iran through bombings, etc, and that's not what the Iranian government wants. What they did was probably the smartest thing they could do, which is show explosions on their TVs so say they attacked back, but incur no loss of life to escalate things.

ceejayoz 7y ago
Iran has a history of retaliatory attacks of this nature. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMIA_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMIA_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_attacks_on_Israeli_diplomats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_attacks_on_Israeli_diplom...
cheez 7y ago
1) Iran isn't a small country. The cost to carpet bomb every square km of Iran would be enormous. Afghanistan is a nickel candy by comparison. 2) Iran has connections with Hezbollah and god knows who else. I would not dismiss the possibility. 3) There are enough people all over the world who would be incensed enough at the US to self radicalize.
- ping_pong 7y ago
  1) Why on Earth would you carpet bomb every square km of Iran? You attack their infrastructure and their economy. That's about as simplistic as it gets. Carpet bombing the entire country is absurd. If you're old enough to remember the second Iraq War, the level of bombs dropped on Iraq was insane. 2) Iran is Hezbollah. They're basically the same thing. 3) If Iran attacked the US with their fictional "sleeper cells", the world would be completely on the US side. This is why Iran didn't kill a single US soldier in their attacks yesterday.
  - senectus1 7y ago
    lol so many straw-man's going on here...
  - cheez 7y ago
    1) Because it's not enough. See Iraq. How many trillions are you ready to pay for the privilege of another quagmire? 2) ok not sure I was implying different. 3) you missed the point. If the US attacked disproportionately, it is highly unlikely that the USA would have the support of the world. At this point it would be expected for them to retaliate through any means available. Did you see the accuracy of their rocket? It destroyed a specific building at the base. The reason there were no casualties was because Iran told Iraq (who told us) that they were going to attack. No one wants an escalation.
    - ping_pong 7y ago
      1) what are you talking about? The US has no desire to occupy Iran. They would devastate the economy by mass bombing of the infrastructure, and then encourage a new US-friendly leader to lead a coup over the current government. Then they would come in with US companies and have them get paid to fix the infrastructure back. Have you not been paying attention? 2) saying that Iran has connections with the Hezbollah is like saying Trump has connections to the Republicans. Iran IS Hezbollah. There's a difference. 3) I'm not sure what you're arguing at this point. I said the same thing. Iran doesn't want an escalation because they know they can't win. If they caused any US deaths, it would lead to escalating destruction of Iran. You were the one that said "sleeper cells" around the world would start conducting terrorist campaigns or something. But that's absurd and would never happen because if they did, the US would make Iran pay and they would have the support of the world. Obviously dropping a nuke on Iran is out of the question, as is destroying cultural sites, but if these "sleeper cells" killed Americans, you could expect massive damage to Iranian infrastructure that they wouldn't be able to recover from in a timely manner.