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The French seem to have handled nuclear technology quite well for many decades now.

by magduf 7y ago

PeterStuer 7y ago
If by "handling well" you mean examples like buying the Belgian energy sector and then buying the Belgian politicians with generous revolving doors to keep open extremely dated and deteriorating reactors in Wallonia (Thiange) and Flanders (Doel) and playing deaf to the objections of neighboring states scared shitless of having these things operating in a dilapidated state so close to their borders, then yes, I guess they are doing a-ok.
- renaudg 7y ago
  Part of the German public and political class can be "scared shitless" until they're blue in the face, they have no leg to stand on. If I were Belgian, I sure would remain deaf to a lecture about energy and the environment, by one of the worst European contributors to CO2 emissions and emitter of deadly fine coal particles causing dozens of thousands of deaths now Germany, this is so out of character for you. You have the resources and smarts to be leading this effort instead of clinging to one terribly misguided populist decision 20 years ago. Until you do though, I would keep a low profile on these matters.
  - PeterStuer 7y ago
    Have you ever considered that maybe it is because they have the smarts that they are getting out of both nuclear and coal? And you might want to read up on Thiange before you tell Belgians to ignore and carry on.
    - renaudg 7y ago
      Whatever you say, the hard inconvenient facts remain and as I write this around midnight CET, coal is the #1 source of electricity in Germany, and their CO2 emissions per kWh are 5.71 times those of France. You simply cannot solve this problem (the most urgent in our times) today by getting out of both nuclear and coal, because battery storage technology isn't ready, the sun doesn't shine at night, the wind isn't always blowing, and Germany doesn't have the geography for hydro like Sweden or geothermal sources like Iceland. It really is as simple as that, in the current state of technology.
lispm 7y ago
Not sure if the people in the Uranium mines in Niger think the same. https://www.downtoearth.org.in/blog/health-in-africa/extracting-a-radioactive-disaster-in-niger-63451 https://www.downtoearth.org.in/blog/health-in-africa/extract...

The French seem to have handled nuclear technology quite well for many decades now.

by magduf 7y ago

The French seem to have handled nuclear technology quite well for many decades now.

If by "handling well" you mean examples like buying the Belgian energy sector and then buying the Belgian politicians with generous revolving doors to keep open extremely dated and deteriorating reactors in Wallonia (Thiange) and Flanders (Doel) and playing deaf to the objections of neighboring states scared shitless of having these things operating in a dilapidated state so close to their borders, then yes, I guess they are doing a-ok.

renaudg 7y ago
Part of the German public and political class can be "scared shitless" until they're blue in the face, they have no leg to stand on. If I were Belgian, I sure would remain deaf to a lecture about energy and the environment, by one of the worst European contributors to CO2 emissions and emitter of deadly fine coal particles causing dozens of thousands of deaths now Germany, this is so out of character for you. You have the resources and smarts to be leading this effort instead of clinging to one terribly misguided populist decision 20 years ago. Until you do though, I would keep a low profile on these matters.
- PeterStuer 7y ago
  Have you ever considered that maybe it is because they have the smarts that they are getting out of both nuclear and coal? And you might want to read up on Thiange before you tell Belgians to ignore and carry on.
  - renaudg 7y ago
    Whatever you say, the hard inconvenient facts remain and as I write this around midnight CET, coal is the #1 source of electricity in Germany, and their CO2 emissions per kWh are 5.71 times those of France. You simply cannot solve this problem (the most urgent in our times) today by getting out of both nuclear and coal, because battery storage technology isn't ready, the sun doesn't shine at night, the wind isn't always blowing, and Germany doesn't have the geography for hydro like Sweden or geothermal sources like Iceland. It really is as simple as that, in the current state of technology.

lispm 7y ago

Not sure if the people in the Uranium mines in Niger think the same. https://www.downtoearth.org.in/blog/health-in-africa/extracting-a-radioactive-disaster-in-niger-63451 https://www.downtoearth.org.in/blog/health-in-africa/extract...