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> Intel focused on AI acceleration—but AMD went unapologetically hard on gaming. I don't think you can go wrong focusing on gaming. This is my opinion of how M

> Intel focused on AI acceleration—but AMD went unapologetically hard on gaming. I don't think you can go wrong focusing on gaming. This is my opinion of how Microsoft succeeded so well. The network effects push all of computing forward.

jszymborski 7y ago
Does this not all just boil down to marketing? GPUs turned out to be a outsized boon to ML performance, but they go there by fulfilling the needs of gamers. I feel like this just boils down to what we've known for a while: Intel is catering to an enterprise crowd while AMD is catering to the average PC enthusiast.
Havoc 7y ago
Stadia etc could still ruin it for AMD. You no longer need local power to game
- int_hdlr 7y ago
  The verdict is out there. Reviews of Stadia haven't been flattering.
- jotm 7y ago
  The new OnLive? Nah
- kllrnohj 7y ago
  Stadia doesn't run on fairy dust. It still uses CPUs & GPUs, and the more people use Stadia the more it will need. And since Stadia uses AMD GPUs I don't think AMD would be that sad about selling more super high margin enterprise GPUs to Google. And of course you still need that local client to play it, which might as well be an AMD-powered ultrabook. At which point Stadia just resulted in AMD selling up to 3 products instead of just 1 (GPU & CPU in the server + APU in the laptop)
- dijit 7y ago
  Stadia doesn’t target enthusiast gamers, I don’t know why people are trying to judge it on those merits. Stadia is for the person who has 1hr every few days to play a game casually on the TV or 20 minutes during lunch. It caters perfectly for the crowd of people who do not want to be locked to a specific device (gaming pc) or update their console/games. The high static time cost of gaming in 2020 is what stadia mitigates. And anyway. Stadia is powered by AMD underneath.
- Shorel 7y ago
  That's true for a very small group of cities with Google fibre. Probably good only for Google employees who are forced to use Chromebooks.
- sudosysgen 7y ago
  Good thing Stadia uses AMD GPUs then :)

jszymborski 7y ago

Does this not all just boil down to marketing? GPUs turned out to be a outsized boon to ML performance, but they go there by fulfilling the needs of gamers. I feel like this just boils down to what we've known for a while: Intel is catering to an enterprise crowd while AMD is catering to the average PC enthusiast.

Havoc 7y ago

Stadia etc could still ruin it for AMD. You no longer need local power to game

int_hdlr 7y ago
The verdict is out there. Reviews of Stadia haven't been flattering.
jotm 7y ago
The new OnLive? Nah
kllrnohj 7y ago
Stadia doesn't run on fairy dust. It still uses CPUs & GPUs, and the more people use Stadia the more it will need. And since Stadia uses AMD GPUs I don't think AMD would be that sad about selling more super high margin enterprise GPUs to Google. And of course you still need that local client to play it, which might as well be an AMD-powered ultrabook. At which point Stadia just resulted in AMD selling up to 3 products instead of just 1 (GPU & CPU in the server + APU in the laptop)
dijit 7y ago
Stadia doesn’t target enthusiast gamers, I don’t know why people are trying to judge it on those merits. Stadia is for the person who has 1hr every few days to play a game casually on the TV or 20 minutes during lunch. It caters perfectly for the crowd of people who do not want to be locked to a specific device (gaming pc) or update their console/games. The high static time cost of gaming in 2020 is what stadia mitigates. And anyway. Stadia is powered by AMD underneath.
Shorel 7y ago
That's true for a very small group of cities with Google fibre. Probably good only for Google employees who are forced to use Chromebooks.
sudosysgen 7y ago
Good thing Stadia uses AMD GPUs then :)