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>With a free immigration policy this would be more difficult both culturally and in terms of costs. i don't understand what this has to do with anything? is th

>With a free immigration policy this would be more difficult both culturally and in terms of costs. i don't understand what this has to do with anything? is this unique to the immigration patterns in Finland (that immigrants end up homeless?) in america the homeless are primarily black and white people (not recent immigrants) https://endhomelessness.org/resource/racial-disparities-homelessness-united-states/ https://endhomelessness.org/resource/racial-disparities-home... >How does Finland get it's wealth? this is whataboutism. i never made the claim that finland was a progressive utopia. where do you think the US gets it's wealth? oil and coal https://openmarkets.cmegroup.com/15157/how-much-does-oil-and-gas-drive-u-s-gdp https://openmarkets.cmegroup.com/15157/how-much-does-oil-and... so can we also get some of that homeless sheltering?

wolco 7y ago
The homeless population in Finland is ethically and culturely similiar to the population which allows them to identify and provide support. The same conditions do not exist in the US. This doesn't extend to others. Finland doesn't provide the same level of support to the poorest nations. The US does. How progressive are we if we help ourselves / our families and people who are genetically like us but we don't provide the same support to other poorer nations. When you look under the hood things are not as black and white. Finland is not as progressive they appear because of the headline.
- throwlaplace 7y ago
  >The same conditions do not exist in the US. literally false according to the stats i posted that you didn't read (or discounted). >How progressive are we if we help ourselves / our families and people who are genetically like us but we don't provide the same support to other poorer nations. i don't understand? are you mad at finland for not being progressive enough? originally your point was the US couldn't be as progressive as finland is because of oil? and immigrants? i don't think you have a coherent point.
  - wolco 7y ago
    An open immigration and generous foreign aid policy makes the US more progressive in some areas compared to Finland. No one is mad at Finland for not providing more external support. I hope my discussion points have caused you to open your mind around global progressive policy. It is never as simple as the headline seems. "Literally false according to the stats i posted that you didn't read (or discounted" Finland is made up of one ethnic group, the US many. That link had no relation to my point.
    - throwlaplace 7y ago
      >Finland is made up of one ethnic group, the US many. That link had no relation to my point. here is what you wrote >The homeless population in Finland is ethically and culturely similiar to the population which allows them to identify and provide support. if you look at the statistics that i posted you see the the homeless population is primarily black people and white people which is ethnically and culturally similar to the population of the united states (note that black people doesn't mean recent african immigrants but american black people).
      - wolco 7y ago
        Finland is made up of one population with similiar genes. Primary white or black is not the same at all. The black population has very different genes within that subgroup representing 50+ countries with different histories some with salary others not. The white population is similiar but more diverse. They are very different.

wolco 7y ago

The homeless population in Finland is ethically and culturely similiar to the population which allows them to identify and provide support. The same conditions do not exist in the US. This doesn't extend to others. Finland doesn't provide the same level of support to the poorest nations. The US does. How progressive are we if we help ourselves / our families and people who are genetically like us but we don't provide the same support to other poorer nations. When you look under the hood things are not as black and white. Finland is not as progressive they appear because of the headline.

throwlaplace 7y ago
>The same conditions do not exist in the US. literally false according to the stats i posted that you didn't read (or discounted). >How progressive are we if we help ourselves / our families and people who are genetically like us but we don't provide the same support to other poorer nations. i don't understand? are you mad at finland for not being progressive enough? originally your point was the US couldn't be as progressive as finland is because of oil? and immigrants? i don't think you have a coherent point.
- wolco 7y ago
  An open immigration and generous foreign aid policy makes the US more progressive in some areas compared to Finland. No one is mad at Finland for not providing more external support. I hope my discussion points have caused you to open your mind around global progressive policy. It is never as simple as the headline seems. "Literally false according to the stats i posted that you didn't read (or discounted" Finland is made up of one ethnic group, the US many. That link had no relation to my point.
  - throwlaplace 7y ago
    >Finland is made up of one ethnic group, the US many. That link had no relation to my point. here is what you wrote >The homeless population in Finland is ethically and culturely similiar to the population which allows them to identify and provide support. if you look at the statistics that i posted you see the the homeless population is primarily black people and white people which is ethnically and culturally similar to the population of the united states (note that black people doesn't mean recent african immigrants but american black people).
    - wolco 7y ago
      Finland is made up of one population with similiar genes. Primary white or black is not the same at all. The black population has very different genes within that subgroup representing 50+ countries with different histories some with salary others not. The white population is similiar but more diverse. They are very different.