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Your kids will have an account, if they don't already. No special software is needed, just a browser and the ability to remember a password. School, library, fr

by ralphc 16y ago

Your kids will have an account, if they don't already. No special software is needed, just a browser and the ability to remember a password. School, library, friend's house...in this war it isn't you vs. them, it's the smartest, most motivated kid they know vs. the dumbest, most apathetic adult they know.

tptacek 16y ago
An account on Facebook, is what you're saying? No, they won't.
- ralphc 16y ago
  Yes, Facebook. If they ever go to a friend's house and they have a computer, or go to school...kids in my church get on Facebook at school all the time, either with no effort or I hear them talking about how to get around blocks with proxies, and these aren't the geeks, these are the "normal", average tech knowledge kids.
  - tptacek 16y ago
    My kids are in an especially unfortunate (for them) situation vis a vis their ability to circumvent parental controls. Sure, they can try to use a Facebook account entirely from their friends house, but why bother? There's so little value in doing it that way that the cost of slipping up just once demolishes it.
    - w1ntermute 16y ago
      > There's so little value in doing it that way that the cost of slipping up just once demolishes it. The average child doesn't do an in-depth cost-benefit analysis before deciding whether to disobey his/her parents. With the right mix of peer pressure and childlike impulsiveness, your children will have Facebook accounts in no time.
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      - tptacek 16y ago
        Yes, and by that logic, will also surely be smoking, drinking, smoking up, and whatever else they've made after school specials about. Human trafficking? Overly-leveraged options speculation? My point here is just, unlike a lot of parents, I'm pretty well situated to control my kids use of the Internet.
- drdaeman 16y ago
  Remembering myself as a kid, being interested in something, and forbidden from doing so, was an instant "totally going to do that" impulse. I'd perceive such ban as a challenge, and would do my best to work around it. And I wouldn't say I was some exceptionally stubborn kid — I believe I was fairly average.

by ralphc 16y ago

tptacek 16y ago

An account on Facebook, is what you're saying? No, they won't.

ralphc 16y ago
Yes, Facebook. If they ever go to a friend's house and they have a computer, or go to school...kids in my church get on Facebook at school all the time, either with no effort or I hear them talking about how to get around blocks with proxies, and these aren't the geeks, these are the "normal", average tech knowledge kids.
- tptacek 16y ago
  My kids are in an especially unfortunate (for them) situation vis a vis their ability to circumvent parental controls. Sure, they can try to use a Facebook account entirely from their friends house, but why bother? There's so little value in doing it that way that the cost of slipping up just once demolishes it.
  - w1ntermute 16y ago
    > There's so little value in doing it that way that the cost of slipping up just once demolishes it. The average child doesn't do an in-depth cost-benefit analysis before deciding whether to disobey his/her parents. With the right mix of peer pressure and childlike impulsiveness, your children will have Facebook accounts in no time.
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    - tptacek 16y ago
      Yes, and by that logic, will also surely be smoking, drinking, smoking up, and whatever else they've made after school specials about. Human trafficking? Overly-leveraged options speculation? My point here is just, unlike a lot of parents, I'm pretty well situated to control my kids use of the Internet.
drdaeman 16y ago
Remembering myself as a kid, being interested in something, and forbidden from doing so, was an instant "totally going to do that" impulse. I'd perceive such ban as a challenge, and would do my best to work around it. And I wouldn't say I was some exceptionally stubborn kid — I believe I was fairly average.