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Has anyone got an example of an AI invention?

by collyw 7y ago

Eikon 7y ago
There is none as the “I” in “AI” is a fallacy. “AI” is like blockchain, mostly useless technology that wastes huge amount of resources where there’s almost always better and way simpler solutions except in very marginal use cases.
- red75prime 7y ago
  > there’s almost always better and way simpler solutions Given that automation hasn't took over all jobs, I suppose that the solution is "hire people to do it". Correct?
- hvidgaard 7y ago
  That is entirely a matter of definitions of intelligence. If it's as in Strong AI, then we're nowhere near yet. But if it's as in limited scope better than humans, then we're very good. Let's put the definition aside for a moment. Lets say we have a black box that doctors can put images into, and it will tell if there are areas that look like it might be cancer. Is that AI? Is it an AI if you can teach it what cancer look like?
  - meddlepal 7y ago
    It's not AI, it's a dynamic programming algorithm.
    - hvidgaard 7y ago
      Dynamic programming algorithm is a well defined and very specific term. This is not dynamic programming in any form. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_programming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_programming
- ben_w 7y ago
  Headline(t=0): “AI $name beats humans at $task! The singularity is upon us!” Headline(t=a): “AI $name isn’t real AI, because it’s just a $latest_buzzword.” Headline(t=b): “AI doesn’t exist and never will. Humans are the best!” Headline(t=c): “AI $name beats humans at $task! The singularity is upon us!” I don’t deny there are plenty of buzzwords around — nor do I deny that AI/ML is glorified statistics with hopeful startups who don’t realise that outsourcing the training to Mechanical Turk won’t provide enough training data — but there are a lot of things that were introduced as AI and which have proven useful, including many things that are now regarded as the better and simpler alternatives to AI/ML.
flir 7y ago
If anyone has their name on such a patent, I'd bet its Danny Hillis.
jdsnape 7y ago
It might not quite be AI in the way we normally think of it, but there's been some interesting work to develop artificially evolved RF antenna - NASA has some in space https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/exploringtheuniverse/borg.html https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/exploringtheunive... Here the antenna design is generated by the computer rather than an individual.

Has anyone got an example of an AI invention?

by collyw 7y ago

Has anyone got an example of an AI invention?

There is none as the “I” in “AI” is a fallacy. “AI” is like blockchain, mostly useless technology that wastes huge amount of resources where there’s almost always better and way simpler solutions except in very marginal use cases.

red75prime 7y ago
> there’s almost always better and way simpler solutions Given that automation hasn't took over all jobs, I suppose that the solution is "hire people to do it". Correct?
hvidgaard 7y ago
That is entirely a matter of definitions of intelligence. If it's as in Strong AI, then we're nowhere near yet. But if it's as in limited scope better than humans, then we're very good. Let's put the definition aside for a moment. Lets say we have a black box that doctors can put images into, and it will tell if there are areas that look like it might be cancer. Is that AI? Is it an AI if you can teach it what cancer look like?
- meddlepal 7y ago
  It's not AI, it's a dynamic programming algorithm.
  - hvidgaard 7y ago
    Dynamic programming algorithm is a well defined and very specific term. This is not dynamic programming in any form. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_programming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_programming
ben_w 7y ago
Headline(t=0): “AI $name beats humans at $task! The singularity is upon us!” Headline(t=a): “AI $name isn’t real AI, because it’s just a $latest_buzzword.” Headline(t=b): “AI doesn’t exist and never will. Humans are the best!” Headline(t=c): “AI $name beats humans at $task! The singularity is upon us!” I don’t deny there are plenty of buzzwords around — nor do I deny that AI/ML is glorified statistics with hopeful startups who don’t realise that outsourcing the training to Mechanical Turk won’t provide enough training data — but there are a lot of things that were introduced as AI and which have proven useful, including many things that are now regarded as the better and simpler alternatives to AI/ML.

flir 7y ago

If anyone has their name on such a patent, I'd bet its Danny Hillis.

jdsnape 7y ago

It might not quite be AI in the way we normally think of it, but there's been some interesting work to develop artificially evolved RF antenna - NASA has some in space https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/exploringtheuniverse/borg.html https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/exploringtheunive... Here the antenna design is generated by the computer rather than an individual.