> I find it ironic that HN seems to be both very pro-freedom/privacy/right-to-repair, yet also very anti-car. Perhaps two separate demographics. I suspect ther

> I find it ironic that HN seems to be both very pro-freedom/privacy/right-to-repair, yet also very anti-car. Perhaps two separate demographics. I suspect there's less overlap than you assume. Freedom I'm sure we could go back and forth on for hours (money has better uses than gas IMO, but the freedom of a car is undeniable), but privacy for cars is an unmitigated disaster. Government-issued ID is undoubtedly a good requirement for driving, but everything else, from automatic license plate scanners to cars frequently reporting your location (to On-Star or Honda's anti-theft) leaves privacy in a dismal state. Right to Repair is moving the wrong way as cars move from mechanical to digital. Tesla is infamous for this, and moving more people to electric cars seems unlikely to reverse the trend. We're also discussing a subset of people likely sitting at desks far too much. I don't want to sit all day then sit in a car to get home either.