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[was] IC =worker. [updated] IC = worker with management tendencies but more technical knowledge. [kept] Ok then. Helpful. Corporatespeak is often just jargon

[was] IC =worker. [updated] IC = worker with management tendencies but more technical knowledge. [kept] Ok then. Helpful. Corporatespeak is often just jargon creation to exclude others for whatever reason. [edit expansion] Worker who is not manager but has manager skills sufficient to orchestrate as needed to deliver a result in required manner. Knowledge level exceeds expectation normally associated with a classic "pure" manager.

jeffshek 7y ago
Not quite, the term IC also comes with connotation you don’t want to be a manager track. Many software engineers (including myself) much prefer the IC route.
- sfgweilr4f 7y ago
  so... a not-just-a-worker who is manager level in terms of ability to orchestrate but is knowledgeable in excess of typical expectations for that of a classical "pure" manager. Ok I probably mangled this but IC just paid for itself in my mind via increased understanding, nuance and useful brevity.
  - inimino 7y ago
    It doesn't imply "manager level". Anyone can be an IC at any level. It might imply "not on a manager track" but strictly just means "not a manager right now". Since it is the opposite of "manager" it might have all kinds of connotations due to being where that distinction is relevant, but the denotation is still just a technical role with zero reports.
    - maxheadroom 7y ago
      >...but strictly just means "not a manager right now". There's also the verisimilitude that it can also mean an inferred ceiling. For example, Principal <whatever area> Engineer role[s] at Microsoft is [are] typically the highest that you can go - if you stick to the IC (read: non-managerial) track[s].
Thorrez 7y ago
It's an abbreviation. It's used to save time. I don't want to waste away typing Hyper Text Transfer Protocol.
- sfgweilr4f 7y ago
  You just did.
  - Thorrez 7y ago
    I didn't waste away this time, I'm still here. But next time I might not be so lucky.
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jeffshek 7y ago

Not quite, the term IC also comes with connotation you don’t want to be a manager track. Many software engineers (including myself) much prefer the IC route.

sfgweilr4f 7y ago
so... a not-just-a-worker who is manager level in terms of ability to orchestrate but is knowledgeable in excess of typical expectations for that of a classical "pure" manager. Ok I probably mangled this but IC just paid for itself in my mind via increased understanding, nuance and useful brevity.
- inimino 7y ago
  It doesn't imply "manager level". Anyone can be an IC at any level. It might imply "not on a manager track" but strictly just means "not a manager right now". Since it is the opposite of "manager" it might have all kinds of connotations due to being where that distinction is relevant, but the denotation is still just a technical role with zero reports.
  - maxheadroom 7y ago
    >...but strictly just means "not a manager right now". There's also the verisimilitude that it can also mean an inferred ceiling. For example, Principal <whatever area> Engineer role[s] at Microsoft is [are] typically the highest that you can go - if you stick to the IC (read: non-managerial) track[s].

Thorrez 7y ago

It's an abbreviation. It's used to save time. I don't want to waste away typing Hyper Text Transfer Protocol.

sfgweilr4f 7y ago
You just did.
- Thorrez 7y ago
  I didn't waste away this time, I'm still here. But next time I might not be so lucky.
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