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If this was true the iPhone would have made negligible inroads in the markets where those products were available. Instead it was a massive success immediately

If this was true the iPhone would have made negligible inroads in the markets where those products were available. Instead it was a massive success immediately in every market where it was offered. I’m sure it had many flaws but it was enough better where it mattered to dominate the competition.

baybal2 7y ago
No, Apple got literally the only one thing right, and that's their marketing
asdff 7y ago
It's not a controversial opinion, it really was all marketing and polishing existing tech like the airpods. When the ipod was first revealed, even apple fanboys at the time thought it was going to be a flop given the competition used common io, didn't require proprietary software, and didn't require a proprietary OS, and also was nearly half the price. https://www.cnet.com/news/apples-ipod-spurs-mixed-reactions/ https://www.cnet.com/news/apples-ipod-spurs-mixed-reactions/ This forum thread from the 2001 release is pretty funny: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.500/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.5...
- barry-cotter 7y ago
  You say polishing, I say crushing superiority in user interface and design.
- gattilorenz 7y ago
  > This forum thread from the 2001 release is pretty funny: Absolutely: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.500/post-5297 https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.5... The Reality Distiortion Field turned out to be in this guy's head :) Seriously, many technical people underestimate the power of "bringing X to the masses" by making a beautiful, easy polished, effortless UX. UX (usually) trumps functionality.
  - t0ddbonzalez 7y ago
    > Oct 23, 2001 > #13 > iCan't believe it! > It's now at the online Apple Store! > $400 for an Mp3 Player! >I'd call it the Cube 2.0 as it wont sell, and be killed off in a short time...and it's not really functional. > Uuhh Steve, can I have a PDA now?" A quote for the ages... :D

baybal2 7y ago

No, Apple got literally the only one thing right, and that's their marketing

asdff 7y ago

It's not a controversial opinion, it really was all marketing and polishing existing tech like the airpods. When the ipod was first revealed, even apple fanboys at the time thought it was going to be a flop given the competition used common io, didn't require proprietary software, and didn't require a proprietary OS, and also was nearly half the price. https://www.cnet.com/news/apples-ipod-spurs-mixed-reactions/ https://www.cnet.com/news/apples-ipod-spurs-mixed-reactions/ This forum thread from the 2001 release is pretty funny: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.500/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.5...

barry-cotter 7y ago
You say polishing, I say crushing superiority in user interface and design.
gattilorenz 7y ago
> This forum thread from the 2001 release is pretty funny: Absolutely: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.500/post-5297 https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.5... The Reality Distiortion Field turned out to be in this guy's head :) Seriously, many technical people underestimate the power of "bringing X to the masses" by making a beautiful, easy polished, effortless UX. UX (usually) trumps functionality.
- t0ddbonzalez 7y ago
  > Oct 23, 2001 > #13 > iCan't believe it! > It's now at the online Apple Store! > $400 for an Mp3 Player! >I'd call it the Cube 2.0 as it wont sell, and be killed off in a short time...and it's not really functional. > Uuhh Steve, can I have a PDA now?" A quote for the ages... :D