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I have an eon and love it for highway driving. It makes long trips relaxing. It's basically the combination of really good adaptive cruise control and active la

I have an eon and love it for highway driving. It makes long trips relaxing. It's basically the combination of really good adaptive cruise control and active lane keep assist. And I feel it's safe within those limitations. Open Pilot keeps me in my lane on the highway following a safe distance behind other cars. I have a Toyota with TSS 2.0, so the steering is powerful enough on curves. My only complaint about steering is that on tight turns like highway onramps it will slow down a little too much. While I was driving my last car I got in an accident when I was driving down the highway at highway speeds and everyone in my lane came to a complete stop. I'm convinced I would not have gotten in that accident if I was driving my current car with open pilot active.

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djanogo 7y ago
Even without openpilot the TSS should have alerted you to brake. On a recent long trip (24 hour drive) TSS 2.0 by itself made the driving stress free. It seems like comma is extending the boundaries of TSS by a little bit beyond what Toyota/Honda can legally do at their scale.
- chris11 7y ago
  True, I agree with that. You can still use stock TSS 2.0 instead of open pilot even with it set up in your car, and I tested out stock TSS 2.0 before I bought my eon. I'm familiar with how it works. My last car was more than 10 years old, and adaptive cruise control probably would have kept me safe. Here's how I compare the two systems. Stock adaptive cruise control is decent and useful. Stock also allows you control the follow distance. Openpilot doesn't allow you to adjust follow distance but it's conservative. OP is really smooth, so I think it's better than stock. Stock lane keep assist is mildly annoying at best. I find the alarms annoying. And stock active lane keep assist is weak. I wouldn't generally consider stock LKA to be worth using for me. OP LKA is really good. It's great at keeping you in a lane, and it's extremely smooth. OP LKA is something I really appreciate. You can technically use OP ACC without OP LKA, but the combination of the two is greater than the sum of its parts. Driving with OP is a surprisingly good experience. I was showing it to a relative recently and she said she was surprised at how smooth and how comfortable she was with it active. She mentioned if she wasn't watching the steering wheel she would not have noticed that I was not actually steering.

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djanogo 7y ago

Even without openpilot the TSS should have alerted you to brake. On a recent long trip (24 hour drive) TSS 2.0 by itself made the driving stress free. It seems like comma is extending the boundaries of TSS by a little bit beyond what Toyota/Honda can legally do at their scale.

chris11 7y ago
True, I agree with that. You can still use stock TSS 2.0 instead of open pilot even with it set up in your car, and I tested out stock TSS 2.0 before I bought my eon. I'm familiar with how it works. My last car was more than 10 years old, and adaptive cruise control probably would have kept me safe. Here's how I compare the two systems. Stock adaptive cruise control is decent and useful. Stock also allows you control the follow distance. Openpilot doesn't allow you to adjust follow distance but it's conservative. OP is really smooth, so I think it's better than stock. Stock lane keep assist is mildly annoying at best. I find the alarms annoying. And stock active lane keep assist is weak. I wouldn't generally consider stock LKA to be worth using for me. OP LKA is really good. It's great at keeping you in a lane, and it's extremely smooth. OP LKA is something I really appreciate. You can technically use OP ACC without OP LKA, but the combination of the two is greater than the sum of its parts. Driving with OP is a surprisingly good experience. I was showing it to a relative recently and she said she was surprised at how smooth and how comfortable she was with it active. She mentioned if she wasn't watching the steering wheel she would not have noticed that I was not actually steering.