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Using misleading images gives climate change deniers justification for their skepticism. One might think that doesn't matter because those people would never be

Using misleading images gives climate change deniers justification for their skepticism. One might think that doesn't matter because those people would never believe anyway but there are plenty of people on the fence who are going to see this false information about the scope of the fires as proof that those speaking about climate change are dishonest and have a hidden agenda. Credibility matters.

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dv_dt 7y ago
Priorities also matter, one can't help but notice the BBC put work into this, but not in reporting in the links between drought fires and our climate crisis.
- olivermarks 7y ago
  Strike Force Indarra https://www.theleader.com.au/story/6566610/police-strike-force-to-investigate-cause-of-bushfires/ https://www.theleader.com.au/story/6566610/police-strike-for...
  - throwaway5752 7y ago
    https://aic.gov.au/publications/rpp/rpp129/arson https://aic.gov.au/publications/rpp/rpp129/arson "Alternatively, a national figure can be obtained by aggregating publicly available data on arson that are available from each state and territory police jurisdiction. Based on these figures, there were approximately 14,975 incidents of arson recorded by police in 2011–12. This is likely to be an underestimate owing to the various ways in which different police jurisdictions define arson for statistical purposes, as well as the omission of unreported incidents. To estimate the number of arson incidents not reported to police, Mayhew (2003a, 2003b) used a multiplier of 3.0. Applying this to the above police recorded crime figure, in 2011–12 there were an estimated 44,925 incidents of arson." So there are about ~100 cases of arson per day in Australia in a given year. What is different about bush fires this year?
PudgePacket 7y ago
It goes both ways. People are using the "180 arrested for starting fires" as a reason to discredit the impact of climate change on the current situation. Though it's conveniently ignored that only a fraction of those were starting actual forest fires (eg not a BBQ...), and there have been arsonists every year.. they're not a new phenomenon.

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dv_dt 7y ago

Priorities also matter, one can't help but notice the BBC put work into this, but not in reporting in the links between drought fires and our climate crisis.

olivermarks 7y ago
Strike Force Indarra https://www.theleader.com.au/story/6566610/police-strike-force-to-investigate-cause-of-bushfires/ https://www.theleader.com.au/story/6566610/police-strike-for...
- throwaway5752 7y ago
  https://aic.gov.au/publications/rpp/rpp129/arson https://aic.gov.au/publications/rpp/rpp129/arson "Alternatively, a national figure can be obtained by aggregating publicly available data on arson that are available from each state and territory police jurisdiction. Based on these figures, there were approximately 14,975 incidents of arson recorded by police in 2011–12. This is likely to be an underestimate owing to the various ways in which different police jurisdictions define arson for statistical purposes, as well as the omission of unreported incidents. To estimate the number of arson incidents not reported to police, Mayhew (2003a, 2003b) used a multiplier of 3.0. Applying this to the above police recorded crime figure, in 2011–12 there were an estimated 44,925 incidents of arson." So there are about ~100 cases of arson per day in Australia in a given year. What is different about bush fires this year?

PudgePacket 7y ago

It goes both ways. People are using the "180 arrested for starting fires" as a reason to discredit the impact of climate change on the current situation. Though it's conveniently ignored that only a fraction of those were starting actual forest fires (eg not a BBQ...), and there have been arsonists every year.. they're not a new phenomenon.