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Adding a vehicle is the equivalent to writing drivers (heh) for your particular car. It entails reverse engineering your car's builtin driver assist features to

Adding a vehicle is the equivalent to writing drivers (heh) for your particular car. It entails reverse engineering your car's builtin driver assist features to determine which CAN messages do things like actuate the brakes and gas, turn the wheel with a given amount of torque, or communicate radar values from the cars builtin radar sensor. For many cars the CAN messages will be the same as similar models so porting a new vehicle just means adding tuning values that can be captured by driving with OpenPilot connected but not controlling the vehicle e.g.: https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/pull/866 https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/pull/866

StavrosK 7y ago
Wait wait wait, are you telling me I can actuate the brakes and gas and turn the steering wheel via the CAN bus? So I can realize my dream of turning my car into an RC car just with a Raspberry Pi and a $4 dongle? That is the best news of the year! Which cars have these sorts of actuators? How can I see if mine does?
- guavaNinja 7y ago
  Actually it's a horrible thing, think of it, a terrorist can buy one of these cars, install rasperrypi with internet access through mobile data, then they can terrorize the whole town by running people over without being caught or killed
  - StavrosK 7y ago
    Why bother doing that when you can just drone-drop grenades into a crowd for much cheaper?
    - guavaNinja 7y ago
      You can easily ban drones but not cars.
      - StavrosK 7y ago
        Wouldn't it be easier to ban grenades?
  - marcinzm 7y ago
    Not really, all you need is a few other people in cars to block them in, problem solved. Or, if it's the US, for the police to use some of those ex-military surplus toys they have. That's not getting into remote control being imprecise so good chance the car will just get stuck somewhere.
- ObsoleteNerd 7y ago
  Almost any car with drive by wire and/or modern safety features (lane assist, forward crash avoidance, etc) can be controlled (to an extent) via the CANBUS. It’s different for (almost) every car, but you’d be amazed how easy and fun cars are to hack on, as long as you keep it off the streets.
  - StavrosK 7y ago
    It's definitely lots of fun, but I didn't know it was easy, I thought the CAN bus was read-only. I can't wait to discover what my car supports.
    - WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
      If it was read-only... how would you be able to 'clear a check engine light'...?
- enragedcacti 7y ago
  Yup! https://github.com/commaai/openpilot-tools/raw/master/steer.gif https://github.com/commaai/openpilot-tools/raw/master/steer.... If your car is in this list: https://github.com/commaai/openpilot#supported-cars https://github.com/commaai/openpilot#supported-cars then it definitely works and you can use these tools to control it https://github.com/commaai/openpilot-tools https://github.com/commaai/openpilot-tools If it's not in that list then the rough heuristic is whether or not your car has some sort of existing driver assist features e.g. Adaptive Cruise Control, Lane Centering, Forward Collision Warning, etc. There are some exceptions to that rule (I think Hyundai ships some cars that have full control of steering and gas even if you don't option out the ADAS features) but that's all case by case. If you join the Comma Discord (https://discord.comma.ai/ https://discord.comma.ai/) there are manufacturer specific channels that can answer any questions you've got.
  - StavrosK 7y ago
    I love you, this is amazing and I am going to get right on it. Hopefully I won't crash my car in the process.
    - ehaisnfn 7y ago
      Remote control is a banned topic for safety reasons
      - StavrosK 7y ago
        That makes sense, thank you.
  - sneak 7y ago
    Please remind the admins that Discord does not support users that choose to keep their location private by using Tor. This makes it a nonstarter for a lot of people.
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StavrosK 7y ago

Wait wait wait, are you telling me I can actuate the brakes and gas and turn the steering wheel via the CAN bus? So I can realize my dream of turning my car into an RC car just with a Raspberry Pi and a $4 dongle? That is the best news of the year! Which cars have these sorts of actuators? How can I see if mine does?

guavaNinja 7y ago
Actually it's a horrible thing, think of it, a terrorist can buy one of these cars, install rasperrypi with internet access through mobile data, then they can terrorize the whole town by running people over without being caught or killed
- StavrosK 7y ago
  Why bother doing that when you can just drone-drop grenades into a crowd for much cheaper?
  - guavaNinja 7y ago
    You can easily ban drones but not cars.
    - StavrosK 7y ago
      Wouldn't it be easier to ban grenades?
- marcinzm 7y ago
  Not really, all you need is a few other people in cars to block them in, problem solved. Or, if it's the US, for the police to use some of those ex-military surplus toys they have. That's not getting into remote control being imprecise so good chance the car will just get stuck somewhere.
ObsoleteNerd 7y ago
Almost any car with drive by wire and/or modern safety features (lane assist, forward crash avoidance, etc) can be controlled (to an extent) via the CANBUS. It’s different for (almost) every car, but you’d be amazed how easy and fun cars are to hack on, as long as you keep it off the streets.
- StavrosK 7y ago
  It's definitely lots of fun, but I didn't know it was easy, I thought the CAN bus was read-only. I can't wait to discover what my car supports.
  - WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
    If it was read-only... how would you be able to 'clear a check engine light'...?
enragedcacti 7y ago
Yup! https://github.com/commaai/openpilot-tools/raw/master/steer.gif https://github.com/commaai/openpilot-tools/raw/master/steer.... If your car is in this list: https://github.com/commaai/openpilot#supported-cars https://github.com/commaai/openpilot#supported-cars then it definitely works and you can use these tools to control it https://github.com/commaai/openpilot-tools https://github.com/commaai/openpilot-tools If it's not in that list then the rough heuristic is whether or not your car has some sort of existing driver assist features e.g. Adaptive Cruise Control, Lane Centering, Forward Collision Warning, etc. There are some exceptions to that rule (I think Hyundai ships some cars that have full control of steering and gas even if you don't option out the ADAS features) but that's all case by case. If you join the Comma Discord (https://discord.comma.ai/ https://discord.comma.ai/) there are manufacturer specific channels that can answer any questions you've got.
- StavrosK 7y ago
  I love you, this is amazing and I am going to get right on it. Hopefully I won't crash my car in the process.
  - ehaisnfn 7y ago
    Remote control is a banned topic for safety reasons
    - StavrosK 7y ago
      That makes sense, thank you.
- sneak 7y ago
  Please remind the admins that Discord does not support users that choose to keep their location private by using Tor. This makes it a nonstarter for a lot of people.
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