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>> The fact nobody else has bested them is a sad comment on industry. I wouldn't say nobody has bested them. The real professional Arduino is the Mbed, run by

by petra 7y ago

>> The fact nobody else has bested them is a sad comment on industry. I wouldn't say nobody has bested them. The real professional Arduino is the Mbed, run by ARM. It's for professionals, by professionals, and it shows in good quality. But, you pay for the abstraction - it's inefficient with hardware resources. Another alternative is modm.io. It's a modern take on the hardware abstraction layer, claimed to be very efficient. It may just be that with it's combination of high efficiency and portability, you would get the cheapest mcu for your project.

contingencies 7y ago
I must respectfully disagree based on research conducted within the last 2 weeks. Everyone claims their IDE is the business, in fact all the closed source ones are all crap, poorly documented and only allow you to easily taget a subset of platforms from a subset of development environments. For example, out of the box MBed Studio doesn't support many lower and mid range chips in the STM range. If you want to buy a high end chip with a MAC, it might be a great option (look at their hardware gallery[0] for an idea of what they're clearly targeting). It's apples and oranges. AFAIK most pro's apparently still use Keil, which is Windows only and expensive. [0] https://os.mbed.com/platforms/ https://os.mbed.com/platforms/
- petra 7y ago
  // only allow you to easily taget a subset of platforms from a subset of development environments I'm not sure the mbed is intended for products with a deep focus on price. So less hardware selection might fit. But modm.io does have support for some low end devices.
  - contingencies 7y ago
    modm.io looks interesting, thanks. Unsure I agree with the premise that using a value line 32 bit MCU implies a "deep focus on price". To me, that would mean something like EM78P173NSO MDT10P509S11 SN8P25D HR7P155 PMS150C or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_packaging#Glop-top https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_packaging#Glop-top

by petra 7y ago

contingencies 7y ago

I must respectfully disagree based on research conducted within the last 2 weeks. Everyone claims their IDE is the business, in fact all the closed source ones are all crap, poorly documented and only allow you to easily taget a subset of platforms from a subset of development environments. For example, out of the box MBed Studio doesn't support many lower and mid range chips in the STM range. If you want to buy a high end chip with a MAC, it might be a great option (look at their hardware gallery[0] for an idea of what they're clearly targeting). It's apples and oranges. AFAIK most pro's apparently still use Keil, which is Windows only and expensive. [0] https://os.mbed.com/platforms/ https://os.mbed.com/platforms/

petra 7y ago
// only allow you to easily taget a subset of platforms from a subset of development environments I'm not sure the mbed is intended for products with a deep focus on price. So less hardware selection might fit. But modm.io does have support for some low end devices.
- contingencies 7y ago
  modm.io looks interesting, thanks. Unsure I agree with the premise that using a value line 32 bit MCU implies a "deep focus on price". To me, that would mean something like EM78P173NSO MDT10P509S11 SN8P25D HR7P155 PMS150C or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_packaging#Glop-top https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_packaging#Glop-top