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I understand but I don't see the industry going back to boxes 30 page with instruction books. Having an industry approved crediting scheme would be wonderful b

I understand but I don't see the industry going back to boxes 30 page with instruction books. Having an industry approved crediting scheme would be wonderful but for the most part the only people viewing it is going to be people on the credits. No games industry recruiter looks at a resume and verify names against the in-game credits (or even IMDB) - they will check against references and people they know that you may have worked with. Same as every other job application. Film may be the last industry where everyone involved still gets credited. TV credits are basically unreadable, streaming music credits only cover the artist, books only list the author. I'm not arguing against credits, just that they are not important outside of being a cool 'thank you'.

Tiktaalik 7y ago
It's simply an issue of respect. That's it. It's incredibly disrespectful to sweep away the efforts of workers that are responsible for the product and to pretend it didn't happen.
- thu2111 7y ago
  This is very specific to gaming though. The vast majority of people are never credited for anything. If that's the best justification for a union then it's not gonna happen.
CydeWeys 7y ago
It's not just about having a name listed in an instruction book or in an end roll, and never has been. You know where most TV/film credits are actually seen? On IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic, and other sites. I can go look up my cousin who works in the film industry and see every film he's ever worked on: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4253724/ https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4253724/ That's the primary way that film credits are consumed, and it would be great if we had something similar in our industry (the closest we get is a list of open source contributions e.g. on your GitHub profile). But, for example, I've contributed code to Google Cloud Platform, Android, and the Google Search app, but you'd never know it unless you worked at Google and looked through the monorepo very closely. The closest I can get would be to write my own credits page, but how would anyone verify that? So it's fine if you don't care, but plenty of other people do care about getting credit for their work, and to them it is quite important. This describes most people in many industries. So yeah, it is important.

Tiktaalik 7y ago

It's simply an issue of respect. That's it. It's incredibly disrespectful to sweep away the efforts of workers that are responsible for the product and to pretend it didn't happen.

thu2111 7y ago
This is very specific to gaming though. The vast majority of people are never credited for anything. If that's the best justification for a union then it's not gonna happen.

CydeWeys 7y ago

It's not just about having a name listed in an instruction book or in an end roll, and never has been. You know where most TV/film credits are actually seen? On IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic, and other sites. I can go look up my cousin who works in the film industry and see every film he's ever worked on: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4253724/ https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4253724/ That's the primary way that film credits are consumed, and it would be great if we had something similar in our industry (the closest we get is a list of open source contributions e.g. on your GitHub profile). But, for example, I've contributed code to Google Cloud Platform, Android, and the Google Search app, but you'd never know it unless you worked at Google and looked through the monorepo very closely. The closest I can get would be to write my own credits page, but how would anyone verify that? So it's fine if you don't care, but plenty of other people do care about getting credit for their work, and to them it is quite important. This describes most people in many industries. So yeah, it is important.