> What do you actually have to lose? health care. It's a big problem. This is why many unions are pro-M4A. You start taking away the big things the company can

> What do you actually have to lose? health care. It's a big problem. This is why many unions are pro-M4A. You start taking away the big things the company can hold over your head in a negotiation. In tech we have those things you mention, mostly. We also have a labour market with massive demand. If that demand falls/supply increases then companies will start cutting costs. When a lot of the people on HN actually experience some uncertainty, their attitudes will probably change.