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> We know someone opened fire a pizza place as a direct result of this. Pizzagate resulted in someone firing a single shot at the lock on a closet door to open
by cwkoss 7y ago
> We know someone opened fire a pizza place as a direct result of this.
Pizzagate resulted in someone firing a single shot at the lock on a closet door to open it. In a discussion of disinformation, I think your characterization is misleading and exemplary of disinformation as well - in a manner quite similar to the disinformation that led that individual to decide to do a vigilante raid on the pizza parlor.
- zach_garwood 7y ago"Opened fire" and "firing a single shot" are the same thing. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
- cwkoss 7y agoThe difference is that "opened fire" is a weasel word in this instance- it is misleading as it linguistically leaves open the interpretation that multiple people were injured or killed
- deith 7y agoUntil I read cwkoss' comment right now I had always assumed someone came to the pizza joint and started firing rounds at people. I admit I'm not American so I never cared enough to look up what "opened fire" meant here, but I think it's evident what people will think of when they read that expression. Hint: not someone shooting a closet's lock once to open it.
- nl 7y agoIt was multiple shots, and he pointed the gun at employees first. See my other comment for references.
- jshevek 7y agoThank you for clarifying this. Based on the coverage I've seen, I had always been under the impression that a shooter shot multiple rounds at a group of people. I had no idea it was a single round directed at a lock in a door. It's amazing how dishonest the headlines and soundbite coverage of this event were.
- nl 7y agoIf we are going to be pedantic about it (in the interests of clearing up misinformation), it was 3 shots[1], and he pointed the gun at employees[2] before shooting at the closet. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory#Criminal_responses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory#Cr... [2] https://www.starnewsonline.com/news/20161205/dc-pizza-place-shooter-former-cfcc-student-local-actor https://www.starnewsonline.com/news/20161205/dc-pizza-place-...
- cwkoss 7y agoAh, thanks for clarifying. Previous coverage I'd read hadn't specified how many times he shot at the lock (ex. "shot through the lock of a closet") and I guess my brain interpreted that as 1. Was able to find multiple corroborating sources for the 3 shots number.
- nl 7y agoNo problem. I find it amusing that I'm receiving downvotes for this clarification - I'd love to understand the reasons behind them. I assume they are idealogical, but what ideology find the difference between 1 and 3 gunshots significant?
- unityByFreedom 7y agoMisinformation on HN, unfortunately, is real. Those companies discussed in the article also have accounts here.