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All this BS with ICANN, what other options are out there to replace them? Some decentralised solution would be great, I guess Namecoin is trying... What other

by xemoka 7y ago

All this BS with ICANN, what other options are out there to replace them? Some decentralised solution would be great, I guess Namecoin is trying... What other options are there that you're aware of? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root

swiley 7y ago
Names are hard. There are things like namecoin but so far they haven’t worked out.
- Tepix 7y ago
  With Namecoin and ENS what's missing are easy to use browser add-ons for Chrome and Firefox (and Safari)
  - somebodythere 7y ago
    For ENS you can resolve names by just installing Metamask. The wallet part of Metamask is not easy to use, but if you just want to brows ENS domains I don't think it can get lower friction than that.
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  - xemoka 7y ago
    It does look like that exists: https://peername.com/browser-extension/ https://peername.com/browser-extension/
  - swiley 7y ago
    Why a browser add-on? That's a really bizarre way to do that and it only fixes interactive web browsing. There is a lot more to networking than web browsers!
Mathnerd314 7y ago
OpenNIC looks like the easiest replacement, they mention some other TLDs they're peered with on their front page such as emerDNS which is decentralized. That doesn't work for anyone who wants their site accessible to the public though, since it won't resolve. Maybe once a few ISPs switch and Google, OpenDNS etc. change their resolvers it'll be a possibility.
- davidu 7y ago
  OpenNIC is no different than ICANN aside from being a failure. It just appears to be better since it uses a talk track that's attractive, but structurally, it's probably even worse than ICANN.
troquerre 7y ago
Handshake.org is another contender that's launching soon. I wrote a blog post exploring some of the security benefits of Handshake[1] which got a lot of discussion on HN[2]. [1] https://www.namebase.io/blog/meet-handshake-decentralizing-dns-to-improve-the-security-of-the-internet https://www.namebase.io/blog/meet-handshake-decentralizing-d... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20995969 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20995969
stubish 7y ago
You could replace them with a centralized solution even. All you need is general agreement to use new root name servers. The new system could even fallback to the old one, providing a transition period. Could probably be done by Microsoft, Apple & Google getting together and deciding how to split the billions and how much they toss the Linux Foundation & Firefox to come along for the ride. It doesn't have to be a great deal, just a better one than ICANN and its landlords provide.

by xemoka 7y ago

swiley 7y ago

Names are hard. There are things like namecoin but so far they haven’t worked out.

Tepix 7y ago
With Namecoin and ENS what's missing are easy to use browser add-ons for Chrome and Firefox (and Safari)
- somebodythere 7y ago
  For ENS you can resolve names by just installing Metamask. The wallet part of Metamask is not easy to use, but if you just want to brows ENS domains I don't think it can get lower friction than that.
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
- xemoka 7y ago
  It does look like that exists: https://peername.com/browser-extension/ https://peername.com/browser-extension/
- swiley 7y ago
  Why a browser add-on? That's a really bizarre way to do that and it only fixes interactive web browsing. There is a lot more to networking than web browsers!

Mathnerd314 7y ago

OpenNIC looks like the easiest replacement, they mention some other TLDs they're peered with on their front page such as emerDNS which is decentralized. That doesn't work for anyone who wants their site accessible to the public though, since it won't resolve. Maybe once a few ISPs switch and Google, OpenDNS etc. change their resolvers it'll be a possibility.

davidu 7y ago
OpenNIC is no different than ICANN aside from being a failure. It just appears to be better since it uses a talk track that's attractive, but structurally, it's probably even worse than ICANN.

troquerre 7y ago

Handshake.org is another contender that's launching soon. I wrote a blog post exploring some of the security benefits of Handshake[1] which got a lot of discussion on HN[2]. [1] https://www.namebase.io/blog/meet-handshake-decentralizing-dns-to-improve-the-security-of-the-internet https://www.namebase.io/blog/meet-handshake-decentralizing-d... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20995969 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20995969

stubish 7y ago

You could replace them with a centralized solution even. All you need is general agreement to use new root name servers. The new system could even fallback to the old one, providing a transition period. Could probably be done by Microsoft, Apple & Google getting together and deciding how to split the billions and how much they toss the Linux Foundation & Firefox to come along for the ride. It doesn't have to be a great deal, just a better one than ICANN and its landlords provide.