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Very location dependent.. The vast majority of the workforce couldn't negotiate a $24k a year raise from their employer.

soneca 7y ago
Maybe not in one step. But starting a SaaS side project or starting to freelance (with enough reputation and client pipeline so it is reliable) also won't give extra $2k from one month to another. Advancing the career as software developer still seems the most reliable and conservative way to get am extra $2k. Disclaimer: it is not my option though. I am building a side project to earn extra revenue, but because my goal is not only the extra money. I want to work for myself with something I enjoy building. With that comes more control over my life, more freedom, and joy from building something nice.
- throwaway743 7y ago
  I hear you on the last paragraph
ryanmercer 7y ago
A lot of us can't negotiate a salary period, people outside of tech don't seem to realize this Major corporations have very concrete pay scales, you start at the bottom of that scale and you climb your way up it year after year with very rigid and defined maximum pay increases based on arbitrary factors in an annual merit increase and not by going "gee boss, I think I deserve a raise!".
- soneca 7y ago
  You can change jobs with a raise though. This in software development of course, as there is a lot of demand almost everywhere and it is easier to change employers than other companies
  - ryanmercer 7y ago
    >You can change jobs with a raise though. Again, not always a realistic option for people.
- codingslave 7y ago
  If youre a top performer, theres always money for you. Ive gotten some 50% raises without a promotion from massive extremely cheap large corporations. But I produce and make those above me look very good. I pull political strings and execute on projects that give my bosses more power.
  - ryanmercer 7y ago
    Yeah, most jobs in the United States (probably the world) don't have "political strings" and "projects". You have clearly defined responsibilities, you do that day in and day out until you quit/retire/die/move to another position.

soneca 7y ago

Maybe not in one step. But starting a SaaS side project or starting to freelance (with enough reputation and client pipeline so it is reliable) also won't give extra $2k from one month to another. Advancing the career as software developer still seems the most reliable and conservative way to get am extra $2k. Disclaimer: it is not my option though. I am building a side project to earn extra revenue, but because my goal is not only the extra money. I want to work for myself with something I enjoy building. With that comes more control over my life, more freedom, and joy from building something nice.

throwaway743 7y ago
I hear you on the last paragraph

ryanmercer 7y ago

A lot of us can't negotiate a salary period, people outside of tech don't seem to realize this Major corporations have very concrete pay scales, you start at the bottom of that scale and you climb your way up it year after year with very rigid and defined maximum pay increases based on arbitrary factors in an annual merit increase and not by going "gee boss, I think I deserve a raise!".

soneca 7y ago
You can change jobs with a raise though. This in software development of course, as there is a lot of demand almost everywhere and it is easier to change employers than other companies
- ryanmercer 7y ago
  >You can change jobs with a raise though. Again, not always a realistic option for people.
codingslave 7y ago
If youre a top performer, theres always money for you. Ive gotten some 50% raises without a promotion from massive extremely cheap large corporations. But I produce and make those above me look very good. I pull political strings and execute on projects that give my bosses more power.
- ryanmercer 7y ago
  Yeah, most jobs in the United States (probably the world) don't have "political strings" and "projects". You have clearly defined responsibilities, you do that day in and day out until you quit/retire/die/move to another position.