>This "we" business is a very lazy argument. There are large numbers of people who have been against this system. It's not lazy at all; it's absolutely true.

>This "we" business is a very lazy argument. There are large numbers of people who have been against this system. It's not lazy at all; it's absolutely true. Those "large numbers" haven't been enough to change anything. If the American people really wanted this situation fixed, it would be, but they don't, so it isn't. >"WE" are not getting what "we" voted for, without even considering that we haven't really had the opportunity to vote for it in the first place." Bullshit. Health insurance has been a major campaign platform for some time now. Have you forgotten Obamacare and what a big issue that was? And ever since then, the GOP has been campaigning on the idea of rescinding it, while the Democrats have campaigned on either keeping it intact or going to single-payer or some other scheme in between. The voters have absolutely had the opportunity to vote for it; that's what they've been doing for at least 15 years now. > perhaps you should focus on easy choices that impact ability to work like prescription drug use like Ambien, guys who stay up late to watch sports, or anyone who stays up late to watch late shows, drinking too much, eating too much, eating an unhealthy diet (which depends on who you ask of course) . . . That's all perfectly fine with me. Employers have all kinds of rights to police employee behavior and discriminate against them as long as it's not a "protected class". Why should employers be forced to pay higher insurance costs for unhealthy employees? And again, if you don't like it, there's the voting booth, but most Americans don't want to change this so good luck with that.