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This might not be so true after CES is done. I was watching Linus Tech Tips[1] video yesterday, and Asus had a new array of nice laptops (albeit, gaming laptop

This might not be so true after CES is done. I was watching Linus Tech Tips[1] video yesterday, and Asus had a new array of nice laptops (albeit, gaming laptops) that were AMD based, including a 13" one with decent AMD CPUs [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGUESEq75ZI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGUESEq75ZI

tracker1 7y ago
About the only big shortcoming is good Thunderbolt support with AMD. I think that will gain parity eventually, but will probably be in the USB4 timeframe over the next couple years. I watched the same videos, and will be looking at laptops over the next few months, so may well go the AMD route myself.
- slantyyz 7y ago
  While I hear what you're saying, I think YMMV with Thunderbolt as a hard requirement. When I bought my laptop a couple of years ago, I made sure that it had TB3 for future-proofing, but I have yet to use it, and I suspect that I'll never use it over the course of the laptop's lifetime (and I have a tendency to keep my laptops in use for a long time). I think having USB-C is good enough for the majority of "normal" users, although I can appreciate that TB is probably a must have for some power users.
  - tracker1 7y ago
    I mostly agree... I use a TB/USB3 dock at work, it works in either/or mode, though USB mode graphics sucks, it's okay for getting work done (web platform development, mostly text/terminal). I was only pointing it out as pretty much the only thing that's likely to be a significant issue for many, especially if you're doing any kind of casual gaming while wanting to dock, vs plugin a few separate items. I use a desktop at home, so not as concerned personally.
    - Marsymars 7y ago
      > I mostly agree... I use a TB/USB3 dock at work, it works in either/or mode, though USB mode graphics sucks, it's okay for getting work done (web platform development, mostly text/terminal). Not sure if you're aware, but you're presumably using your dock in a config where it's using DisplayLink for the display output. Configurations exist that do HDMI/DisplayPort passthrough over USB/TB, which have native performance.
      - tracker1 7y ago
        I know.. I had to use it via USB for a few days when the USB-C/TB port failed on my laptop until it was repaired.

tracker1 7y ago

About the only big shortcoming is good Thunderbolt support with AMD. I think that will gain parity eventually, but will probably be in the USB4 timeframe over the next couple years. I watched the same videos, and will be looking at laptops over the next few months, so may well go the AMD route myself.

slantyyz 7y ago
While I hear what you're saying, I think YMMV with Thunderbolt as a hard requirement. When I bought my laptop a couple of years ago, I made sure that it had TB3 for future-proofing, but I have yet to use it, and I suspect that I'll never use it over the course of the laptop's lifetime (and I have a tendency to keep my laptops in use for a long time). I think having USB-C is good enough for the majority of "normal" users, although I can appreciate that TB is probably a must have for some power users.
- tracker1 7y ago
  I mostly agree... I use a TB/USB3 dock at work, it works in either/or mode, though USB mode graphics sucks, it's okay for getting work done (web platform development, mostly text/terminal). I was only pointing it out as pretty much the only thing that's likely to be a significant issue for many, especially if you're doing any kind of casual gaming while wanting to dock, vs plugin a few separate items. I use a desktop at home, so not as concerned personally.
  - Marsymars 7y ago
    > I mostly agree... I use a TB/USB3 dock at work, it works in either/or mode, though USB mode graphics sucks, it's okay for getting work done (web platform development, mostly text/terminal). Not sure if you're aware, but you're presumably using your dock in a config where it's using DisplayLink for the display output. Configurations exist that do HDMI/DisplayPort passthrough over USB/TB, which have native performance.
    - tracker1 7y ago
      I know.. I had to use it via USB for a few days when the USB-C/TB port failed on my laptop until it was repaired.