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>While I still consider DuckDuckGo to be in the "not bad" category... If you're into privacy-conscious search engines and want one that's not susceptible to bl

>While I still consider DuckDuckGo to be in the "not bad" category... If you're into privacy-conscious search engines and want one that's not susceptible to blanket FISA warrants[0], check out either Qwant[1] or SwissCows[2]. [0] - DuckDuckGo's address is in Pennsylvania - 20 Paoli Pike, Paoli, PA 19301. [1] - https://www.qwant.com https://www.qwant.com [2] - https://swisscows.ch/ https://swisscows.ch/

6510 7y ago
wow, those seem quite fantastic at first glance. If I search for my real name I get every single profile I've ever created since the beginning of time - as opposed to google listing a bunch of random garbage. Names there are like John Doe returns famous people named John OR Doe above the person(s) with the actual name. EDIT: I right click the search box and make qw and sw keywords for them. EDIT2: I'm just looking for a functional google alternative.
jannes 7y ago
Qwant doesn't work for me at all on Firefox. It displays an empty page. Does anyone else have that problem? In the console I get a warning and an error: > Content Security Policy: Couldn’t process unknown directive ‘script-src-elem’ > TypeError: browserLanguage is undefined
- icebraining 7y ago
  For some reason, your Firefox profile doesn't have a preferred language, but Qwant expects one. If you add one in the Preferences (option "Choose your preferred language for displaying pages"), it should work.
  - cpeterso 7y ago
    Seems like Firefox should fall back to the OS language of a preferred language had not been set in the browser. I wonder how that happened.
    - cpeterso 7y ago
      This is a Firefox bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1415146 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1415146
bitcurious 7y ago
Re:qwant France has a more permissive surveillance regime than the US[0], and as a foreign (US) user I have no recourse if they spy on me. Furthermore, here are some quotes from qwant: >We do not use any cookies or other advertising tracers to create your profile for commercial purposes. This means that you can use Qwant with confidence, we will never try to establish your psychological or commercial profile to sell it to third parties, here or elsewhere. [1] Note the "for commercial purposes" in the first sentence, and the "to sell it to third parties" in the second. These are weasel clauses. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/24/france-big-brother-surveillance-powers https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/24/france-big-bro... [1] https://betterweb.qwant.com/5-reasons-to-be-brave-and-choose-qwant/ https://betterweb.qwant.com/5-reasons-to-be-brave-and-choose...
- martin_a 7y ago
  > France has a more permissive surveillance regime than the US[0], and as a foreign (US) user I have no recourse if they spy on me. Hahahahaha, enough with the jokes. Comparing France to the US... Thinking you actually had some kind or chance of recourse against any of the three letter agencies. You are funny! > Note the "for commercial purposes" in the first sentence, and the "to sell it to third parties" in the second. These are weasel clauses. Could be, could not be. With Google you can be sure that they sell your data to _anybody_ that is willing to pay something for that.
  - umanwizard 7y ago
    > With Google you can be sure that they sell your data to _anybody_ This is not true. There is no documented case of Google selling any user's personal data to anyone.
    - martin_a 7y ago
      Okay, fair point. Googles' business is literally selling access to all the data they have collected from you. So they are not selling your data, only the access to that data, that's right.
- 7y ago
tsukurimashou 7y ago
Qwant was proprietary last time I checked and didn't seem that privacy centered as they say Also >France
- tsukurimashou 7y ago
  Downvoters care to explain? I was born and lived in France for 20+ years, I think I've a pretty good idea about the government, freedom and privacy in that country. I've seen Qwant being shilled countless times, starting from the french government pushing a "privacy focused search engine" a lot of school use this search engine by default. Despite all of that I have yet to see code or any actual proof they respect user privacy.
ProAm 7y ago
Startpage was good but I think they were recently bought out by a less than a good party
- rapnie 7y ago
  Yes, see HN's 'Startpage is now owned by an advertising company': https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21371577 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21371577
cousin_it 7y ago
All of these are using Bing results, right?
SlowRobotAhead 7y ago
I tried Swiss Cows just now, it appears effective at first glance but a little longer and realized I’ve never seen a more sanitized and curated search. I don’t necessarily mean that good or bad. Just interesting how... different it is. Seems good if you know your thug exists already and someone approved it for their results.
thiagomgd 7y ago
"swiss cows"... .ch right

6510 7y ago

wow, those seem quite fantastic at first glance. If I search for my real name I get every single profile I've ever created since the beginning of time - as opposed to google listing a bunch of random garbage. Names there are like John Doe returns famous people named John OR Doe above the person(s) with the actual name. EDIT: I right click the search box and make qw and sw keywords for them. EDIT2: I'm just looking for a functional google alternative.

jannes 7y ago

Qwant doesn't work for me at all on Firefox. It displays an empty page. Does anyone else have that problem? In the console I get a warning and an error: > Content Security Policy: Couldn’t process unknown directive ‘script-src-elem’ > TypeError: browserLanguage is undefined

icebraining 7y ago
For some reason, your Firefox profile doesn't have a preferred language, but Qwant expects one. If you add one in the Preferences (option "Choose your preferred language for displaying pages"), it should work.
- cpeterso 7y ago
  Seems like Firefox should fall back to the OS language of a preferred language had not been set in the browser. I wonder how that happened.
  - cpeterso 7y ago
    This is a Firefox bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1415146 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1415146

bitcurious 7y ago

Re:qwant France has a more permissive surveillance regime than the US[0], and as a foreign (US) user I have no recourse if they spy on me. Furthermore, here are some quotes from qwant: >We do not use any cookies or other advertising tracers to create your profile for commercial purposes. This means that you can use Qwant with confidence, we will never try to establish your psychological or commercial profile to sell it to third parties, here or elsewhere. [1] Note the "for commercial purposes" in the first sentence, and the "to sell it to third parties" in the second. These are weasel clauses. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/24/france-big-brother-surveillance-powers https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/24/france-big-bro... [1] https://betterweb.qwant.com/5-reasons-to-be-brave-and-choose-qwant/ https://betterweb.qwant.com/5-reasons-to-be-brave-and-choose...

martin_a 7y ago
> France has a more permissive surveillance regime than the US[0], and as a foreign (US) user I have no recourse if they spy on me. Hahahahaha, enough with the jokes. Comparing France to the US... Thinking you actually had some kind or chance of recourse against any of the three letter agencies. You are funny! > Note the "for commercial purposes" in the first sentence, and the "to sell it to third parties" in the second. These are weasel clauses. Could be, could not be. With Google you can be sure that they sell your data to _anybody_ that is willing to pay something for that.
- umanwizard 7y ago
  > With Google you can be sure that they sell your data to _anybody_ This is not true. There is no documented case of Google selling any user's personal data to anyone.
  - martin_a 7y ago
    Okay, fair point. Googles' business is literally selling access to all the data they have collected from you. So they are not selling your data, only the access to that data, that's right.
7y ago

tsukurimashou 7y ago

Qwant was proprietary last time I checked and didn't seem that privacy centered as they say Also >France

tsukurimashou 7y ago
Downvoters care to explain? I was born and lived in France for 20+ years, I think I've a pretty good idea about the government, freedom and privacy in that country. I've seen Qwant being shilled countless times, starting from the french government pushing a "privacy focused search engine" a lot of school use this search engine by default. Despite all of that I have yet to see code or any actual proof they respect user privacy.

ProAm 7y ago

Startpage was good but I think they were recently bought out by a less than a good party

rapnie 7y ago
Yes, see HN's 'Startpage is now owned by an advertising company': https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21371577 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21371577

cousin_it 7y ago

All of these are using Bing results, right?

SlowRobotAhead 7y ago

I tried Swiss Cows just now, it appears effective at first glance but a little longer and realized I’ve never seen a more sanitized and curated search. I don’t necessarily mean that good or bad. Just interesting how... different it is. Seems good if you know your thug exists already and someone approved it for their results.

thiagomgd 7y ago

"swiss cows"... .ch right