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Can anyone link? As a limey Brit id rather listen to John Oliver then this Tucker chap. (seriously this passes for news?)

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ilikehurdles 7y ago
No, it's considered entertainment.
alistairSH 7y ago
No, Tucker Carlson is not news. He's a pundit/commentator who has a talk show. Neither is John Oliver. I'd almost say they're flip sides of the same coin, except Carlson trends WAY right (often right into conspiracy theory land) and Oliver is more center-left.
- Accujack 7y ago
  Oliver is a journalist, though. That's why Snowden granted him an interview first, before anyone else in the world. Sure, he's humorous, but he's not offering his opinions except in the most general terms. He follows facts, not hype.
  - brain5ide 7y ago
    I thought he was a comedian.
    - mcv 7y ago
      He is a comedian, and always denies being news. That doesn't change the fact that his show is one of the most informative shows on TV. It absolutely is journalism what he's doing. He's just dressing it up in jokes.
  - philwelch 7y ago
    No, John Oliver is most definitely a comedian.
    - Accujack 7y ago
      ...who nonetheless has solid journalistic methods.
      - pacerwpg 7y ago
        I believe he's the face of journalists behind the scenes who do all the heavy lifting work.
        philwelch 7y ago
        See this is where John Oliver (and before him, Jon Stewart) are really duplicitous. They talk about the news in a certain way that implies that they have done their research and are delivering useful information, but they crack wise as they are doing so, in such a way that obviously fits in with whatever narrative or reaction they're trying to sell. And then when they get called out for being dishonest or biased, they say, "wait a minute, I'm just a comedian!"
  - alistairSH 7y ago
    Oliver's background is in entertainment and comedy. As far as I know, he's never had a traditional journalism job. Carlson started his career as a journalist, working for right-wing publications.
    - Accujack 7y ago
      Yes, but being a professional journalist doesn't presently correlate with journalism skills or integrity. His work is closer to good journalism than most TV news programs or "news hours". Funny world we live in.
      - alistairSH 7y ago
        I don't disagree with that. There's something broken in journalism today, for sure. No way should an admitted comedian/entertainer provide better news than many "real" news outlets.
- theflyinghorse 7y ago
  Oliver is fairly far left wheres Tucker is closer to center
  - ubermonkey 7y ago
    LOLNO. Tucker is right wing. He also has a very casual relationship with the truth. Oliver is definitely to the left, but he also doesn't lie.

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ilikehurdles 7y ago

No, it's considered entertainment.

alistairSH 7y ago

No, Tucker Carlson is not news. He's a pundit/commentator who has a talk show. Neither is John Oliver. I'd almost say they're flip sides of the same coin, except Carlson trends WAY right (often right into conspiracy theory land) and Oliver is more center-left.

Accujack 7y ago
Oliver is a journalist, though. That's why Snowden granted him an interview first, before anyone else in the world. Sure, he's humorous, but he's not offering his opinions except in the most general terms. He follows facts, not hype.
- brain5ide 7y ago
  I thought he was a comedian.
  - mcv 7y ago
    He is a comedian, and always denies being news. That doesn't change the fact that his show is one of the most informative shows on TV. It absolutely is journalism what he's doing. He's just dressing it up in jokes.
- philwelch 7y ago
  No, John Oliver is most definitely a comedian.
  - Accujack 7y ago
    ...who nonetheless has solid journalistic methods.
    - pacerwpg 7y ago
      I believe he's the face of journalists behind the scenes who do all the heavy lifting work.
      - philwelch 7y ago
        See this is where John Oliver (and before him, Jon Stewart) are really duplicitous. They talk about the news in a certain way that implies that they have done their research and are delivering useful information, but they crack wise as they are doing so, in such a way that obviously fits in with whatever narrative or reaction they're trying to sell. And then when they get called out for being dishonest or biased, they say, "wait a minute, I'm just a comedian!"
- alistairSH 7y ago
  Oliver's background is in entertainment and comedy. As far as I know, he's never had a traditional journalism job. Carlson started his career as a journalist, working for right-wing publications.
  - Accujack 7y ago
    Yes, but being a professional journalist doesn't presently correlate with journalism skills or integrity. His work is closer to good journalism than most TV news programs or "news hours". Funny world we live in.
    - alistairSH 7y ago
      I don't disagree with that. There's something broken in journalism today, for sure. No way should an admitted comedian/entertainer provide better news than many "real" news outlets.
theflyinghorse 7y ago
Oliver is fairly far left wheres Tucker is closer to center
- ubermonkey 7y ago
  LOLNO. Tucker is right wing. He also has a very casual relationship with the truth. Oliver is definitely to the left, but he also doesn't lie.