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Here's to hoping we can go at least one of those posts without the brand loyalists coming out of the woodwork to "interpret" these numbers to their satisfaction

by ryandvm 16y ago

Here's to hoping we can go at least one of those posts without the brand loyalists coming out of the woodwork to "interpret" these numbers to their satisfaction... How about we just agree that there is very stiff competition in the smartphone market and when that happens everyone wins.

cryptoz 16y ago
You've got to admit that the rise of Android is pretty neat, though. Who would have ever thought that 300,000 Linux kernels would be shipped to people's pockets every day? That's pretty great. And almost all the rest are Unixy too! I agree the competition is the best part, but I love to stand back and check out the explosion of Linux in the mainstream.
- Samuel_Michon 16y ago
  According to the Gartner data, 184k Android devices were sold daily in 2010 overall, but it isn't unthinkable that sales have risen to 300k a day. When Dan Rubin first tweeted about that number back in December, it sounded kind of fishy, but it may well be true now. In any case, the mobile market is moving to *nix kernels. Android and WebOS have Linux kernels. IOS and Blackberry 7 have Unix kernels. (LinMo, Moblin, Maemo and MeeGo also have Linux kernels but are either dead or dying.) The odd ones out are Windows Phone and Symbian, both facing an uncertain future.
  - drivebyacct2 16y ago
    I think you're confusing Dan Morril and Andy Rubin. If you consider a graph of Android's growth, I have no problem at all believing that activations in December were 50% higher than they were in January.
    - Samuel_Michon 16y ago
      On December 6, Andy Rubin wrote on the Google Blog: "Today, more than 200,000 Android devices are activated daily worldwide." [1] Three days later, Andy Rubin tweeted "There are over 300,000 Android phones activated each day." [2]. Given the little time in between, the latter statement raised some eyebrows. But again, the smartphone market is growing like crazy, so it's not at all unthinkable that right now 300k Android handsets are sold daily. [1] http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-with-gingerbread.html http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-w... [2] http://twitter.com/arubin/status/12727540783251456 http://twitter.com/arubin/status/12727540783251456
      - ZeroGravitas 16y ago
        That 200,000 figure had been quoted before though, by Eric Schmidt back in August (which is when Steve Jobs said "We think some of our friends are counting upgrades in their numbers." & "We think we are ahead of everyone.") so if any eyebrows were raised by Rubin using it again 4 months later then they were (or should have been) raised in surpise at Android sales plateauing, particularly after announcing 100K per day in May and 160K per day in June. It's not unthinkable that they're up to 400K per day by now. It could well have been a simple typo or something intended to be updated to the latest figures that got missed.
        Samuel_Michon 16y ago
        That seems like a fair assumption. Most important to me, as a web developer, is that soon most smartphone users will have modern WebKit browsers on their phones. Whether the OS is Android, iOS, Blackberry or WebOS doesn't really matter.

by ryandvm 16y ago

cryptoz 16y ago

You've got to admit that the rise of Android is pretty neat, though. Who would have ever thought that 300,000 Linux kernels would be shipped to people's pockets every day? That's pretty great. And almost all the rest are Unixy too! I agree the competition is the best part, but I love to stand back and check out the explosion of Linux in the mainstream.

Samuel_Michon 16y ago
According to the Gartner data, 184k Android devices were sold daily in 2010 overall, but it isn't unthinkable that sales have risen to 300k a day. When Dan Rubin first tweeted about that number back in December, it sounded kind of fishy, but it may well be true now. In any case, the mobile market is moving to *nix kernels. Android and WebOS have Linux kernels. IOS and Blackberry 7 have Unix kernels. (LinMo, Moblin, Maemo and MeeGo also have Linux kernels but are either dead or dying.) The odd ones out are Windows Phone and Symbian, both facing an uncertain future.
- drivebyacct2 16y ago
  I think you're confusing Dan Morril and Andy Rubin. If you consider a graph of Android's growth, I have no problem at all believing that activations in December were 50% higher than they were in January.
  - Samuel_Michon 16y ago
    On December 6, Andy Rubin wrote on the Google Blog: "Today, more than 200,000 Android devices are activated daily worldwide." [1] Three days later, Andy Rubin tweeted "There are over 300,000 Android phones activated each day." [2]. Given the little time in between, the latter statement raised some eyebrows. But again, the smartphone market is growing like crazy, so it's not at all unthinkable that right now 300k Android handsets are sold daily. [1] http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-with-gingerbread.html http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-w... [2] http://twitter.com/arubin/status/12727540783251456 http://twitter.com/arubin/status/12727540783251456
    - ZeroGravitas 16y ago
      That 200,000 figure had been quoted before though, by Eric Schmidt back in August (which is when Steve Jobs said "We think some of our friends are counting upgrades in their numbers." & "We think we are ahead of everyone.") so if any eyebrows were raised by Rubin using it again 4 months later then they were (or should have been) raised in surpise at Android sales plateauing, particularly after announcing 100K per day in May and 160K per day in June. It's not unthinkable that they're up to 400K per day by now. It could well have been a simple typo or something intended to be updated to the latest figures that got missed.
      - Samuel_Michon 16y ago
        That seems like a fair assumption. Most important to me, as a web developer, is that soon most smartphone users will have modern WebKit browsers on their phones. Whether the OS is Android, iOS, Blackberry or WebOS doesn't really matter.