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I'm curious about how many people actually have laptops with resolutions higher than 1080p and use them without display scaling. People buy a high resolution l

I'm curious about how many people actually have laptops with resolutions higher than 1080p and use them without display scaling. People buy a high resolution laptop and turn the scaling on 200%, effectively nullifying the benefits of a high resolution display.

leadingthenet 7y ago
A high resolution display is useful for more than just seeing additional things on the screen at once.
oblio 7y ago
The image is crisper to me, than for a regular non-scaled display.
baconizer 7y ago
There are non English computer users benefit greatly from high DPI displays, especially oriental characters; and there are a lot of us.
lultimouomo 7y ago
I'd say that scaling up is exactly the benefit of a HiDPI display; if you don't you keep the same crappy low resulution rendering, only in smaller size!
toyg 7y ago
I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about. Using a hi-dpi display at native res on a 15'' screen is a recipe to kill your eyes, whereas scaling to 200% gives you butter-smooth text that relaxes them. That is the benefit. When I was young, I was all for keeping text small and stuff ing as much info on the screen as I could. Nowadays, I just struggle to work on any native-res screen: unscaled low-dpi looks like crap, unscaled hi-dpi is tiring. My world changed with the 2012 retina MBP and I simply cannot go back.
- teekert 7y ago
  There is scaling like just making every pixel a 2x2 pixel area on the screen, but there is also scaling that increase the resolution. I think me551ah was talking about the former kind, which also seems useless to me, just buy a 1080p display. the second kind though makes everything nicer.
  - deno 7y ago
    Fractional scaling is stupid. 150% × 4K = 1440p so just buy 1440p screen but 150% on 4K will mean misaligned pixel grid. If you need more real estate and want HiDPI then you need 5K display, not 4K. 5K is 1440p@2. Fractional scaling should be under seven “Are you sure? What you’re doing is stupid.” pop-ups. Instead at least Windows 10 actually makes 150% the default. Boggles my mind. Here’s a good article series on this topic by Elementary OS dev: https://medium.com/elementaryos/what-is-hidpi-and-why-does-it-matter-b024eabea20d https://medium.com/elementaryos/what-is-hidpi-and-why-does-i... https://medium.com/elementaryos/top-3-misconceptions-about-hidpi-f5ef493d7bf8 https://medium.com/elementaryos/top-3-misconceptions-about-h...
lazyjones 7y ago
With scaling you still get smooth fonts and crisp images (if available at higher resolutions than "screen pixels"), the benefit of a high resolution display really isn't to fit more stuff on the screen anymore (especially on 12-14").
chrisseaton 7y ago
> People buy a high resolution laptop and turn the scaling on 200%, effectively nullifying the benefits of a high resolution display. The benefit is the higher resolution itself. Scaling doesn’t change the resolution. You still get the benefit.
thedaemon 7y ago
It seems, after reading all of these comments that the ONLY significant improvement of highdpi is Font Rendering. I am a 3d artist and do not run HiDPI as it is a waste for my user case. I can see how most people don't do artwork and prefer the font rendering of HiDPI. Please don't think we all want nice font rendering, sometimes we need that 100% scaling.
deno 7y ago
200% scaling is the intended use case. E.g. for text: https://www.eizoglobal.com/library/basics/pixel_density_4k/tm_1409eizo_02.jpg https://www.eizoglobal.com/library/basics/pixel_density_4k/t...

leadingthenet 7y ago

A high resolution display is useful for more than just seeing additional things on the screen at once.

oblio 7y ago

The image is crisper to me, than for a regular non-scaled display.

baconizer 7y ago

There are non English computer users benefit greatly from high DPI displays, especially oriental characters; and there are a lot of us.

lultimouomo 7y ago

I'd say that scaling up is exactly the benefit of a HiDPI display; if you don't you keep the same crappy low resulution rendering, only in smaller size!

toyg 7y ago

I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about. Using a hi-dpi display at native res on a 15'' screen is a recipe to kill your eyes, whereas scaling to 200% gives you butter-smooth text that relaxes them. That is the benefit. When I was young, I was all for keeping text small and stuff ing as much info on the screen as I could. Nowadays, I just struggle to work on any native-res screen: unscaled low-dpi looks like crap, unscaled hi-dpi is tiring. My world changed with the 2012 retina MBP and I simply cannot go back.

teekert 7y ago
There is scaling like just making every pixel a 2x2 pixel area on the screen, but there is also scaling that increase the resolution. I think me551ah was talking about the former kind, which also seems useless to me, just buy a 1080p display. the second kind though makes everything nicer.
- deno 7y ago
  Fractional scaling is stupid. 150% × 4K = 1440p so just buy 1440p screen but 150% on 4K will mean misaligned pixel grid. If you need more real estate and want HiDPI then you need 5K display, not 4K. 5K is 1440p@2. Fractional scaling should be under seven “Are you sure? What you’re doing is stupid.” pop-ups. Instead at least Windows 10 actually makes 150% the default. Boggles my mind. Here’s a good article series on this topic by Elementary OS dev: https://medium.com/elementaryos/what-is-hidpi-and-why-does-it-matter-b024eabea20d https://medium.com/elementaryos/what-is-hidpi-and-why-does-i... https://medium.com/elementaryos/top-3-misconceptions-about-hidpi-f5ef493d7bf8 https://medium.com/elementaryos/top-3-misconceptions-about-h...

lazyjones 7y ago

With scaling you still get smooth fonts and crisp images (if available at higher resolutions than "screen pixels"), the benefit of a high resolution display really isn't to fit more stuff on the screen anymore (especially on 12-14").

chrisseaton 7y ago

> People buy a high resolution laptop and turn the scaling on 200%, effectively nullifying the benefits of a high resolution display. The benefit is the higher resolution itself. Scaling doesn’t change the resolution. You still get the benefit.

thedaemon 7y ago

It seems, after reading all of these comments that the ONLY significant improvement of highdpi is Font Rendering. I am a 3d artist and do not run HiDPI as it is a waste for my user case. I can see how most people don't do artwork and prefer the font rendering of HiDPI. Please don't think we all want nice font rendering, sometimes we need that 100% scaling.

deno 7y ago

200% scaling is the intended use case. E.g. for text: https://www.eizoglobal.com/library/basics/pixel_density_4k/tm_1409eizo_02.jpg https://www.eizoglobal.com/library/basics/pixel_density_4k/t...