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Stopped updating it for a reason -- http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175

by ethbro 7y ago

pisky 7y ago
Has that site been hacked? When I use Chrome's simplified view there is a paragraph injected talking about and linking to live porn.
- ShorsHammer 7y ago
  > http:// http:// no donkey in this race but how sure this is not you and your circumstances rather than the site itself? Living in certain countries my ISP used to inject all sort of nonsense into every unencrypted site they could. Anyone not using tls these days is intentionally exposing their readers to harm, which you seem to be experiencing. Personally I won't view such sites on principle and block them with https-everywhere, though guessing many others do allow it, due to being the default setting worldwide.
  - anderskaseorg 7y ago
    It’s not just them—the described paragraph is in the Google cache (search for xxx). https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RhVEwmGBrloJ:www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story%3D20130818120421175&hl=en&gl=us&strip=0&vwsrc=1 https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RhVEwm...
    - mattchamb 7y ago
      view the page source and there is a "position: absolute; left: -5294px; top: 0;" to hide the paragraph
      - _JamesA_ 7y ago
        As someone who doesn't dive deep into CSS positioning what is the significance of -5294? Is there a reason it's not a round number?
- tyingq 7y ago
  Wouldn't be surprising if it were hacked. The "geeklog" PHP cms has a pretty big list of CVEs. https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list.php?vendor_id=1050&product_id=0&version_id=0&page=1&hasexp=0&opdos=0&opec=0&opov=0&opcsrf=0&opgpriv=0&opsqli=0&opxss=0&opdirt=0&opmemc=0&ophttprs=0&opbyp=0&opfileinc=0&opginf=0&cvssscoremin=0&cvssscoremax=0&year=0&month=0&cweid=0&order=1&trc=28&sha=0f211843d34ed576fb1f1c36561ebc7d8b3cd1b1 https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list.php?vendor_id=...
saalweachter 7y ago
There's a bit of "get you coming and going" here. If the NSA -- and other state / state-like actors -- are omnipotent, and can always find you through your email, etc, you either have to stop what you're doing or be willing to deal with being caught or exposed. If they aren't all-powerful, but people stop using email to communicate and stop carrying out their business because of the belief they are, that also serves the same purpose as catching or exposing the people in question -- it stops their activities. This reminds me of the idea behind WikiLeaks -- not just to expose the leaked documents, but to make it so costly to carry on secret communications and operations that people stop trying.

Stopped updating it for a reason -- http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175

by ethbro 7y ago

Stopped updating it for a reason -- http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175

pisky 7y ago

Has that site been hacked? When I use Chrome's simplified view there is a paragraph injected talking about and linking to live porn.

ShorsHammer 7y ago
> http:// http:// no donkey in this race but how sure this is not you and your circumstances rather than the site itself? Living in certain countries my ISP used to inject all sort of nonsense into every unencrypted site they could. Anyone not using tls these days is intentionally exposing their readers to harm, which you seem to be experiencing. Personally I won't view such sites on principle and block them with https-everywhere, though guessing many others do allow it, due to being the default setting worldwide.
- anderskaseorg 7y ago
  It’s not just them—the described paragraph is in the Google cache (search for xxx). https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RhVEwmGBrloJ:www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story%3D20130818120421175&hl=en&gl=us&strip=0&vwsrc=1 https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RhVEwm...
  - mattchamb 7y ago
    view the page source and there is a "position: absolute; left: -5294px; top: 0;" to hide the paragraph
    - _JamesA_ 7y ago
      As someone who doesn't dive deep into CSS positioning what is the significance of -5294? Is there a reason it's not a round number?
tyingq 7y ago
Wouldn't be surprising if it were hacked. The "geeklog" PHP cms has a pretty big list of CVEs. https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list.php?vendor_id=1050&product_id=0&version_id=0&page=1&hasexp=0&opdos=0&opec=0&opov=0&opcsrf=0&opgpriv=0&opsqli=0&opxss=0&opdirt=0&opmemc=0&ophttprs=0&opbyp=0&opfileinc=0&opginf=0&cvssscoremin=0&cvssscoremax=0&year=0&month=0&cweid=0&order=1&trc=28&sha=0f211843d34ed576fb1f1c36561ebc7d8b3cd1b1 https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list.php?vendor_id=...

saalweachter 7y ago

There's a bit of "get you coming and going" here. If the NSA -- and other state / state-like actors -- are omnipotent, and can always find you through your email, etc, you either have to stop what you're doing or be willing to deal with being caught or exposed. If they aren't all-powerful, but people stop using email to communicate and stop carrying out their business because of the belief they are, that also serves the same purpose as catching or exposing the people in question -- it stops their activities. This reminds me of the idea behind WikiLeaks -- not just to expose the leaked documents, but to make it so costly to carry on secret communications and operations that people stop trying.