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The invisible hand at play, specially if it is true that plant based milk are taking away market share from the milk industry. Hope the government doesn't bail
by lalos 7y ago
The invisible hand at play, specially if it is true that plant based milk are taking away market share from the milk industry. Hope the government doesn't bail out or protect the industry against what the free market demands.
- pkaye 7y agoWhat I've heard is people drink less milk but eat more cheese. I think the plant milk substitutes for cheese are not quite there.
- onlyrealcuzzo 7y agoNot for hard cheeses, and they're not doing a good job mimicking the flavors, but there's some really good soft cashew cheeses these days -- and it's not very processed either.
- bestnameever 7y agoThe best mac and cheese I have ever had was vegan although that was from a vegan restaurant so I don't even know how they made it.
- toomuchtodo 7y agoCashew sauce serves as a cheese substitute.
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- JumpCrisscross 7y ago> Cashew sauce serves as a cheese substitute Recently went to a plant-based pizza place. (Unknowingly.) Pizza comes out. It's a white pizza. Cashew cheese all over it. Biting into what you think is cheese and getting cashew is disgusting. Biting into a cashew, sage and roasted pepper flatbread is quite nice. The language around substitutes likely needs to evolve for mass adoption. (That or make it literally unrecognisably similar, e.g. what Impossible and Beyond Meat are trying to do, at which point one likely surrenders many health benefits.)
- toomuchtodo 7y agoJust had mac and cheese (with cashew sauce as the cheese) at a vegan diner in Indianapolis a few days ago, couldn't tell the difference between it and the real deal. It's unlikely you're going to get away with calling cashew sauce "cheese" at scale, but when properly made it gets close.
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago> Just had mac and cheese at a vegan diner in Indianapolis a few days ago Mind sharing the name? I'm out there in a few weeks.
- toomuchtodo 7y ago10th Street Diner. Also highly recommend their take on a BLT. Enjoy! https://www.yelp.com/biz/10th-street-diner-indianapolis https://www.yelp.com/biz/10th-street-diner-indianapolis
- md2be 7y agoVegan Mac Cheese sauce is perhaps the simplistic thing to make - soak cashews overnight in fridge, drain water, add fresh water, blends, add nutritional yeast, salt, pepper, garlic, and a lemon. Heat and serve.
- logfromblammo 7y agoI agree completely. Saying "vegan X" for a complex vegan recipe intended to approach the experience of eating X seems like a naming failure when considering the sometimes heroic effort that went into researching the recipe. Calling it "vegan cheese" is thus doubly unsuitable, as it disappoints everyone expecting something like real cheese, and denies the vegan innovator a distinctive, intrinsically vegan name for the creation. Veganism should really be appealing for vegans first, and then the masses will appropriate from that culture whatever foods they like best from it. A "mac and vegan cheese" will never be able to outcompete mac and genuine cheese among the people who don't really care all that much if dairy cows are exploited or unhappy. But a "macaroni and cashew-butter sauce" might be fine if I'm not really in the mood for real cheese, or want to try something different. I'm perfectly willing to try original vegan foods, but when they go head-to-head with vegan imitation against non-vegan genuine, I will choose the genuine food most of the time.
- dpatru 7y agohttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7q2Ry-pC6Rw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7q2Ry-pC6Rw Here are my kids making vegan mac and cheese.
- shhshahassa 7y agono one asked for this lol
- klipt 7y agoWhole milk is still recommended by pediatricians for toddlers, I imagine plant based milk is not nutritionally equivalent.
- toomuchtodo 7y agoWe use pea milk with our kids because they're lactose intolerant. Pediatrician recommended as long as they're getting more protein and fat elsewhere in their diet (which they do). It doesn't hurt that peas don't care how they're raised and treated to produce milk. Dairy milk is not nutritionally necessary in any age cohort. If you enjoy it, that's fine of course, but it isn't required if you don't.
- pg_is_a_butt 7y agoWhat cow told you that? Peas care.
- jononomo 7y agoI just think you're damaging your kids by not giving them milk, which is the most nutritious thing you can feed a kid. Also, your kids may be lactose intolerant due to other stuff in their diet, like gluten or other toxins in plant-based foods that lead to a leaky gut.
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- justinator 7y agoIf milk is so good, keep them on Mother's milk.
- mijkal 7y agoBitty! Lol :-) (Ref: 'Little Britain') https://youtu.be/FmD2Y6WxpIw?t=61 https://youtu.be/FmD2Y6WxpIw?t=61
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- m463 7y agoThere's lots of evidence milk isn't as good for you as the dairy industry advertises.
- jononomo 7y agoWhere did you get that idea? Milk is one of the 2-3 most nutritious foods on Earth. In fact, milk has been designed by evolution over millions of years to be precisely what a mammal needs to thrive.
- toomuchtodo 7y agoSome humans have the necessary genes to digest milk, some do not. Can't lump all mammals together. > Milk contains a type of sugar called lactose, which is distinct from the sugars found in fruit and other sweet foods. When we are babies, our bodies make a special enzyme called lactase that allows us to digest the lactose in our mother’s milk. But after we are weaned in early childhood, for many people this stops. Without lactase, we cannot properly digest the lactose in milk. As a result, if an adult drinks a lot of milk they may experience flatulence, painful cramps and even diarrhoea. (It’s worth noting that in other mammals, there aren’t any lactase-persistent adults – adult cows don’t have active lactase, and neither do cats or dogs, for example). https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190218-when-did-humans-start-drinking-cows-milk https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190218-when-did-humans-...
- soperj 7y agoThen how do cats digest it?
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- InvaderFizz 7y agoPoorly. Adult cats are generally lactose intolerant[0]. 0: https://www.prestigeanimalhospital.com/services/cats/blog/why-cats-and-cows-milk-dont-mix https://www.prestigeanimalhospital.com/services/cats/blog/wh...