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I'm the opposite. I like knowing that at 3am there's somewhere that's open where I can buy things like contact lens fluid, pain relievers, etc. (7-Eleven happe

I'm the opposite. I like knowing that at 3am there's somewhere that's open where I can buy things like contact lens fluid, pain relievers, etc. (7-Eleven happens to have those)

booleandilemma 7y ago
The best thing that recently happened to my living situation is a 24 hour convenience store that opened below my apartment. It’s like a 2nd fridge/pantry/medicine cabinet.
EpicEng 7y ago
Perhaps just plan ahead for your contact lens solution. I get that it's convenient, but working those shifts is miserable (I did it).
- ravenstine 7y ago
  I'm an imperfect human being. I'm going to go through contact lens solution and put off replacing it until I squeeze the bottle late at night and nothing comes out. I'm glad there are people I can pay at any time of the day to fix my self-inflicted problem.
  - EpicEng 7y ago
    Sure, but it's not great fun for the person on the other side of the counter.
    - jumpman500 7y ago
      Most people don’t work for fun.
      - EpicEng 7y ago
        I imagine you understood what I meant by "not fun", but ok. I suppose my view is, if you can't plan ahead for your trivial purchases, I don't really care. I'd rather just shut the store down and let you bemoan the fact that you can't buy snacks and Tylenol at 3am.
        cryptoz 7y ago
        I personally find this a particularly cruel take. It implies that nobody is poor, nobody has accidents ever, like a spilled bottle of pills, and that there should be no capitalism at all. It's very confusing - if people are willing or want to start a business that is open at night, with a goal of supplying medicine, food, and other necessities during hours that other stores do not offer such services at all, it seems like they should be allowed to do that. Calling medicine that is potentially life-saving purchases at 3am "trivial" is unnecessarily cruel even for HN. Yes, 7-Eleven sells a lot of medicine that can save someone's life that they might not "stock up on" because they have insufficient money to stock up on every possible medicine and plan for every possible event.
        anarchodev 7y ago
        We're almost there. In "perfect" capitalism, there would be a very hot market for employees willing to work the graveyard shift, and since there was clearly a need for those workers, they would be paid quite a lot. In reality, those who work those shifts are often people who don't have much of a choice where to work, much less which hours they're assigned. Sometimes managers will be nice and keep you on a regular shift so you develop a sane sleep schedule -- not usually. Just like working on holidays, I don't bemoan anyone who wants to eat fast food, or the workers who want to make a little more money. But let's not ignore that these workers' economic situations are different than ours and usually much more dire, so talking about what they "want" can't really be divorced from the systems that keep them in relative (and actual) poverty.
        ehnto 7y ago
        Reach outside of your bubble and realise there are likely tens of thousands of people in your city who live a different schedule to you, for work and other needs like care and support. There is room for a night time economy based around the people and services that run while you sleep in your standard schedule. Big cities wouldn't be possible without the efforts of people on AM heavy schedules.
- peteretep 7y ago
  > I get that it's convenient, but working those shifts is miserable (I did it). Not earning is worse.
vl 7y ago
While unrelated to the point you are making, I would suggest daily contracts - more hygienic, and don’t require fluid. I used both types and like dailies way better.

I'm the opposite. I like knowing that at 3am there's somewhere that's open where I can buy things like contact lens fluid, pain relievers, etc. (7-Eleven happens to have those)

booleandilemma 7y ago

The best thing that recently happened to my living situation is a 24 hour convenience store that opened below my apartment. It’s like a 2nd fridge/pantry/medicine cabinet.

EpicEng 7y ago

Perhaps just plan ahead for your contact lens solution. I get that it's convenient, but working those shifts is miserable (I did it).

ravenstine 7y ago
I'm an imperfect human being. I'm going to go through contact lens solution and put off replacing it until I squeeze the bottle late at night and nothing comes out. I'm glad there are people I can pay at any time of the day to fix my self-inflicted problem.
- EpicEng 7y ago
  Sure, but it's not great fun for the person on the other side of the counter.
  - jumpman500 7y ago
    Most people don’t work for fun.
    - EpicEng 7y ago
      I imagine you understood what I meant by "not fun", but ok. I suppose my view is, if you can't plan ahead for your trivial purchases, I don't really care. I'd rather just shut the store down and let you bemoan the fact that you can't buy snacks and Tylenol at 3am.
      - cryptoz 7y ago
        I personally find this a particularly cruel take. It implies that nobody is poor, nobody has accidents ever, like a spilled bottle of pills, and that there should be no capitalism at all. It's very confusing - if people are willing or want to start a business that is open at night, with a goal of supplying medicine, food, and other necessities during hours that other stores do not offer such services at all, it seems like they should be allowed to do that. Calling medicine that is potentially life-saving purchases at 3am "trivial" is unnecessarily cruel even for HN. Yes, 7-Eleven sells a lot of medicine that can save someone's life that they might not "stock up on" because they have insufficient money to stock up on every possible medicine and plan for every possible event.
        anarchodev 7y ago
        We're almost there. In "perfect" capitalism, there would be a very hot market for employees willing to work the graveyard shift, and since there was clearly a need for those workers, they would be paid quite a lot. In reality, those who work those shifts are often people who don't have much of a choice where to work, much less which hours they're assigned. Sometimes managers will be nice and keep you on a regular shift so you develop a sane sleep schedule -- not usually. Just like working on holidays, I don't bemoan anyone who wants to eat fast food, or the workers who want to make a little more money. But let's not ignore that these workers' economic situations are different than ours and usually much more dire, so talking about what they "want" can't really be divorced from the systems that keep them in relative (and actual) poverty.
      - ehnto 7y ago
        Reach outside of your bubble and realise there are likely tens of thousands of people in your city who live a different schedule to you, for work and other needs like care and support. There is room for a night time economy based around the people and services that run while you sleep in your standard schedule. Big cities wouldn't be possible without the efforts of people on AM heavy schedules.
peteretep 7y ago
> I get that it's convenient, but working those shifts is miserable (I did it). Not earning is worse.

vl 7y ago

While unrelated to the point you are making, I would suggest daily contracts - more hygienic, and don’t require fluid. I used both types and like dailies way better.