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I wonder if jobs will also move in this direction. Open source seems to be the closest thing. It's possible to shift one's time between projects gradually. I

I wonder if jobs will also move in this direction. Open source seems to be the closest thing. It's possible to shift one's time between projects gradually. I suspect the main obstacle is that it's hard for a salary to be gradual. We need a more sophisticated scheme. Something like automatic per-issue bounties.

rubidium 7y ago
“ Something like automatic per-issue bounties.” I physically shuttered at that thought. I get the intent, but having labored qualified and paid for in that way is sure to lead to a terrible issue system gamed by those “in the know” to exploit the rest.
lozaning 7y ago
Just need to be careful that you don't end up with even more snakes in Delhi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect
pharke 7y ago
Maybe we just need a better way of doing short term contracts. If both parties can sign on to something that won't have huge negative consequences if it goes poorly then there's more room for experimentation. Dating already has these unwritten rules, meeting for a non-committal coffee, going out to dinner, going to a show, a bar, one night stands, and the gradient of casual relationships to marriage prospects. I think there used to be equivalents for these gradations in employment but so much formalization has built up around the hiring process that it's choked most of them out.
dragonwriter 7y ago
> I wonder if jobs will also move in this direction. They already have, where there is any commitment at all; that's what formal probationary periods, earned tenure, and temp/contract-to-hire arrangements are. Of course, much work has moved past even the idea of commitment on either side. > I suspect the main obstacle is that it's hard for a salary to be gradual It's not hard at all, plenty of jobs that are paid salary at the nearest approximation of a committed level can be acquired after a temp/contract-to-hire period which is paid hourly based on hours worked, without guaranteed hours and at a total rate that, even of full time hours are available, is less than post-hire salary+benefits.
- wombatpm 7y ago
  Yes, but the rest of your life is a step function. I don't get to gradually pay my health insurance or mortgage.

rubidium 7y ago

“ Something like automatic per-issue bounties.” I physically shuttered at that thought. I get the intent, but having labored qualified and paid for in that way is sure to lead to a terrible issue system gamed by those “in the know” to exploit the rest.

lozaning 7y ago

Just need to be careful that you don't end up with even more snakes in Delhi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect

pharke 7y ago

Maybe we just need a better way of doing short term contracts. If both parties can sign on to something that won't have huge negative consequences if it goes poorly then there's more room for experimentation. Dating already has these unwritten rules, meeting for a non-committal coffee, going out to dinner, going to a show, a bar, one night stands, and the gradient of casual relationships to marriage prospects. I think there used to be equivalents for these gradations in employment but so much formalization has built up around the hiring process that it's choked most of them out.

dragonwriter 7y ago

> I wonder if jobs will also move in this direction. They already have, where there is any commitment at all; that's what formal probationary periods, earned tenure, and temp/contract-to-hire arrangements are. Of course, much work has moved past even the idea of commitment on either side. > I suspect the main obstacle is that it's hard for a salary to be gradual It's not hard at all, plenty of jobs that are paid salary at the nearest approximation of a committed level can be acquired after a temp/contract-to-hire period which is paid hourly based on hours worked, without guaranteed hours and at a total rate that, even of full time hours are available, is less than post-hire salary+benefits.

wombatpm 7y ago
Yes, but the rest of your life is a step function. I don't get to gradually pay my health insurance or mortgage.