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he placed the gates and guards. The state has fined him for doing so and ordered to restore access. But since he is rich and the fine is small - he did not comp

by option 7y ago

he placed the gates and guards. The state has fined him for doing so and ordered to restore access. But since he is rich and the fine is small - he did not comply and was just paying the fine and keeps fighting in courts

RobertRoberts 7y ago
Looking at the map, I see what looks like one decent road to the beach. Couldn't the state just come in and make their own road? Where I live access roads are common on private property, but the are on the borders of the property between private owners. Is he just that petty that he truly doesn't want others to have access to the beach? Or is it more complicated than that?
- blackhaz 7y ago
  It looks like this person is an asshole.
- hstreet 7y ago
  I don't have a horse in this race either (from Toronto, couldn't care less), but I am a map nerd. I had the same confusion as RobertRoberts when looking at the street view too. Either I'm vastly underestimating how much property on Martins Beach Rd that Khosla owns, or it's poor journalism with a half explanation of the issue. The 3D map view shows it better. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Martin's+Beach/@37.3749952,-122.4103335,171a,35y,67.19h,57.49t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x808f090cb6271353:0x3d9391e735ac292a!8m2!3d37.3736981!4d-122.4083224 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Martin's+Beach/@37.3749952... From what I can see, it's either: 1. The stretch of Martins Beach Rd that runs along the beach, or 2. The tiny road above the row of houses that runs parallel to the stretch of Martins Beach Rd that runs along the beach. I don't know how it would be 1, as Martins Beach Rd would be a government funded and managed road. According to the map though, both roads are named the same. Somehow I doubt this though, and one of these roads is private, the other is the real Martins Beach Rd. However, it still doesn't answer why Khosla would be able to close a whole private road when there's what looks like 22 properties on the upper Martins Beach Rd, and 13 properties on the lower Martins Beach Rd - does he own all of them? Really confusing!
  - kbutler 7y ago
    You're thinking much too small. Zoom out. Then zoom out again. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Martin's+Beach/@37.3759307,-122.4113647,1735m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x808f090cb6271353:0x3d9391e735ac292a!8m2!3d37.3736981!4d-122.4083224 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Martin's+Beach/@37.3759307... From the LA Times, the "Gate in dispute" is right off highway 1: https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/1d63e71/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1400x805+0+0/resize/840x483!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fb0%2F48%2F28ebb3ea7918da84b712fbaf76b4%2Fla-1537998790-kwizbltty6-snap-image https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/1d63e71/214... https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-martins-beach-supreme-court-20181001-story.html https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-martins-beach-supr...

by option 7y ago

RobertRoberts 7y ago

Looking at the map, I see what looks like one decent road to the beach. Couldn't the state just come in and make their own road? Where I live access roads are common on private property, but the are on the borders of the property between private owners. Is he just that petty that he truly doesn't want others to have access to the beach? Or is it more complicated than that?

blackhaz 7y ago
It looks like this person is an asshole.
hstreet 7y ago
I don't have a horse in this race either (from Toronto, couldn't care less), but I am a map nerd. I had the same confusion as RobertRoberts when looking at the street view too. Either I'm vastly underestimating how much property on Martins Beach Rd that Khosla owns, or it's poor journalism with a half explanation of the issue. The 3D map view shows it better. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Martin's+Beach/@37.3749952,-122.4103335,171a,35y,67.19h,57.49t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x808f090cb6271353:0x3d9391e735ac292a!8m2!3d37.3736981!4d-122.4083224 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Martin's+Beach/@37.3749952... From what I can see, it's either: 1. The stretch of Martins Beach Rd that runs along the beach, or 2. The tiny road above the row of houses that runs parallel to the stretch of Martins Beach Rd that runs along the beach. I don't know how it would be 1, as Martins Beach Rd would be a government funded and managed road. According to the map though, both roads are named the same. Somehow I doubt this though, and one of these roads is private, the other is the real Martins Beach Rd. However, it still doesn't answer why Khosla would be able to close a whole private road when there's what looks like 22 properties on the upper Martins Beach Rd, and 13 properties on the lower Martins Beach Rd - does he own all of them? Really confusing!
- kbutler 7y ago
  You're thinking much too small. Zoom out. Then zoom out again. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Martin's+Beach/@37.3759307,-122.4113647,1735m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x808f090cb6271353:0x3d9391e735ac292a!8m2!3d37.3736981!4d-122.4083224 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Martin's+Beach/@37.3759307... From the LA Times, the "Gate in dispute" is right off highway 1: https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/1d63e71/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1400x805+0+0/resize/840x483!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fb0%2F48%2F28ebb3ea7918da84b712fbaf76b4%2Fla-1537998790-kwizbltty6-snap-image https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/1d63e71/214... https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-martins-beach-supreme-court-20181001-story.html https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-martins-beach-supr...