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Someone who went to HackReactor & got a job at Airbnb making 6 figures was telling people not to go to a Bootcamp because the job situation is getting worse and

Someone who went to HackReactor & got a job at Airbnb making 6 figures was telling people not to go to a Bootcamp because the job situation is getting worse and all the best parts of the course are available either for free online or $10 on Udemy (vs $20k for the bootcamp). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSgsX80ymF8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSgsX80ymF8

gowld 7y ago
Maybe people who go to bootcamps know that watching videos from home doesn't work for them?
- redthrow 7y ago
  That exact point is addressed at the 3:00 mark.
  - barry-cotter 7y ago
    Then either transcribe it or tell us what they said. Life is to short to watch YouTube videos when text exists.
  - peripitea 7y ago
    Edit: For context, his argument is basically: "If independent learning is not your forte then that's a much larger problem, because you will need to do significant independent study regardless of the bootcamp." It's not a great argument. Yes, being able to learn/research independently is an important skill that everyone should have, but it's a spectrum. Teaching yourself programming in six months through self-study alone is VERY FAR along on that spectrum. I would bet there are far more people who can get a job with the structure/forced deadlines/etc. of a bootcamp + a heavy amount of self-study to improve their skills, than there are who can do the entire thing themselves. Also, self study is far from the most efficient way to learn most things. Having someone to help unblock you when you have a bug you can't figure out, or when there's a concept you're not quite grasping can make a huge difference in your overall rate of learning.
JMTQp8lwXL 7y ago
Why should anybody go to a 4 year university if they can do a $10 Udemy course? Even a bootcamp of questionable quality still confers some sort of credential, much like a Bachelor's degree does.

gowld 7y ago

Maybe people who go to bootcamps know that watching videos from home doesn't work for them?

redthrow 7y ago
That exact point is addressed at the 3:00 mark.
- barry-cotter 7y ago
  Then either transcribe it or tell us what they said. Life is to short to watch YouTube videos when text exists.
- peripitea 7y ago
  Edit: For context, his argument is basically: "If independent learning is not your forte then that's a much larger problem, because you will need to do significant independent study regardless of the bootcamp." It's not a great argument. Yes, being able to learn/research independently is an important skill that everyone should have, but it's a spectrum. Teaching yourself programming in six months through self-study alone is VERY FAR along on that spectrum. I would bet there are far more people who can get a job with the structure/forced deadlines/etc. of a bootcamp + a heavy amount of self-study to improve their skills, than there are who can do the entire thing themselves. Also, self study is far from the most efficient way to learn most things. Having someone to help unblock you when you have a bug you can't figure out, or when there's a concept you're not quite grasping can make a huge difference in your overall rate of learning.

JMTQp8lwXL 7y ago

Why should anybody go to a 4 year university if they can do a $10 Udemy course? Even a bootcamp of questionable quality still confers some sort of credential, much like a Bachelor's degree does.