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>> but professionals, they are not This is exactly correct. And if you're interviewing juniors/graduates trying to find "professionals" then you really don't
by andrewstuart 7y ago
>> but professionals, they are not
This is exactly correct. And if you're interviewing juniors/graduates trying to find "professionals" then you really don't understand hiring.
"We're looking for professionals with no commercial experience." It's a contradiction in terms.
- whiddershins 7y agoSo you want to pay someone to train them.
- pmiller2 7y agoWhy not? That's how it used to work. Provided they can demonstrate a minimum of CS fundamentals, things like tools (git, ssh, etc.), how to work with a large code base, good style, and any number of things that a new grad needs to know to become a competent junior engineer can be taught.
- OGWhales 7y agoI think this is exactly what the original comment was taking issue with for the bootcampers. >but as soon as you threw any real world problem that required any deviation from their established lane they completely floundered He quoted it himself, but failed to notice the issue. I myself have noticed people who went through 4 year programs tend to be much more adaptable as the universities tend to do a better job of building a solid foundation.
- rglullis 7y agoBS. For a corporate setting that may have the resources to hire people for the potential and long term maintenance of their cogs, sure, hire "recent graduates" with zero ability to produce any value to the company. But don't tell me that you can't find young people with little to no experience that are talented enough to run circles on any "experienced professional" and actually be useful from the start. I've done it myself more than once.