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Fun facts: - Europe destroyed the USSR without war. - Putin gets more resistance protests in Russia because of common sanctions - Gazprom can't sell with pro

Fun facts: - Europe destroyed the USSR without war. - Putin gets more resistance protests in Russia because of common sanctions - Gazprom can't sell with profit within Russia, they need Europe - Russia invests a lot of percentage of their GDP on military. But it's still nothing compared to Europe ( russia vs europe military spend: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=russia+vs+europe+military+spend https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=russia+vs+europe+milit... ). Remember, Europe isn't even spending 2% - Without Ukraine, Russia can't even use their naval fleet. That's why they are being aggressive. The sanctions of being aggressive are hurting them, but cutting off oil to Europe would hurt them a lot more. - Europe has never been so close to Moscow. They are more scared than you imagine - Russia has way more borders to defend than any other country. That's why they are willing to get run over by China. Their relationship will fail sooner or later. China doesn't invest in Russia despite longtime promises. Their relationship will hold untill Putin realizes there is not much to gain or till China doesn't need them anymore. Russia needs China more ( because of borders ) than the other way around. China also wants more security at it's borders, but it's less of a requirement. - Russia's and Turkeys relationship is also not that stable. It was because of one man that they talked again, by the use of a special Turkish expression that said: sorry, but not that sorry. Their relationship could hold untill one of both actually tries to improve relations with Europe, not happening soon though. If Europe would want to hurt Russia, they only need to heavily subsidize renewable resources, that would hurt max. 5% of Russia's GDP. No war required and don't bite the hand that feeds you ;)

baybal2 7y ago
Man... what your economic policy will do to 30k units or armour, and 50k units in reserve? Russia is still 100% capable to just put reservists into t55s and send them in the general direction of Europe. The only two real option to stall them for Nato will be to redeploy US forces to Europe or use French nukes.
- NicoJuicy 7y ago
  > Man... what your economic policy will do to 30k units or armour, and 50k units in reserve? Make 144,5 million Russians even more unhappy? https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-a-big-shift-russians-take-to-the-streets-over-everyday-complaints-11577203354 https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-a-big-shift-russians-take-to... - dated: December 2019. What will the army / Putin do against much higher protests, if they continue to threat and receive more economic sanctions? This is why the USSR, at it's peak in 1980 x 5 of current Russia, fell without a war. What good has Russia's gigantic military done? I only see failures. It seems that history hasn't been a good teacher. So, please learn some history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War#Effects_on_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War#Effects_on_... PS. Always welcome to adjust my opinion with facts.
  - baybal2 7y ago
    > Make 144,5 million Russians even more unhappy? Do they care when they talk of making populace "eat grass?" And I think they wouldn't even mind doing that and losing for as long as they "mess up your lawn" From tiny pieces of what gets leaked, Putin hoped for nothing less than complete victory in both Georgia and Ukraine, and in both times it demonstrated that his generals were comically incompetent, causing lots of discontent in the military. Nevertheless, I think he still came out quite happy with just scaring the West away from those two countries, and messing up any prospect for a brighter future for them.
    - NicoJuicy 7y ago
      Perhaps your vision is too black and white. Russia still receives sanctions ( that hurts their economy) and Crimea has always been mostly Russians, with over 65% Russians. None of them were actually part of the EU. Although i would have wished Ukraine would have been better off without Russia ( and more democracy). It's not that easy to make an objective opinion, Russia had way more to loose than any of us + 65% Russians in the country would have made it possible to make a democratic decision ( in theory) Georgia, i'm not aware of that actually. It's seems to me that both were caused by oil for Russia. My statement about subsidizing renewable energy against Russia has only been proven right.
      - baybal2 7y ago
        > Russia still receives sanctions If they were afraid of sanctions (which, even at this level are a complete joke,) they wouldn't be doing military adventures which would set them as a target for them. > It's not that easy to make an objective opinion, Russia had way more to loose than any of us + 65% Russians in the country would have made it possible to make a democratic decision ( in theory) This sound to me as a Russian a complete nonsense. An average Russian couldn't have hated Russia more for what it is, let alone opting to jump into the "warm embrace of the fatherland" once they got out. For Russians, Russians who ended up with Ukrainian, Baltic states, or even a some joke Central Asian passport after the collapse of the Union are seen as somebody very lucky. And the talk of ethnic Russians in the West, let alone US and Canada ever thinking of returning to Russia is a complete joke. Sorry, but you read to much Pravda, I'm afraid. I can't get other words for that.

baybal2 7y ago

Man... what your economic policy will do to 30k units or armour, and 50k units in reserve? Russia is still 100% capable to just put reservists into t55s and send them in the general direction of Europe. The only two real option to stall them for Nato will be to redeploy US forces to Europe or use French nukes.

NicoJuicy 7y ago
> Man... what your economic policy will do to 30k units or armour, and 50k units in reserve? Make 144,5 million Russians even more unhappy? https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-a-big-shift-russians-take-to-the-streets-over-everyday-complaints-11577203354 https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-a-big-shift-russians-take-to... - dated: December 2019. What will the army / Putin do against much higher protests, if they continue to threat and receive more economic sanctions? This is why the USSR, at it's peak in 1980 x 5 of current Russia, fell without a war. What good has Russia's gigantic military done? I only see failures. It seems that history hasn't been a good teacher. So, please learn some history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War#Effects_on_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War#Effects_on_... PS. Always welcome to adjust my opinion with facts.
- baybal2 7y ago
  > Make 144,5 million Russians even more unhappy? Do they care when they talk of making populace "eat grass?" And I think they wouldn't even mind doing that and losing for as long as they "mess up your lawn" From tiny pieces of what gets leaked, Putin hoped for nothing less than complete victory in both Georgia and Ukraine, and in both times it demonstrated that his generals were comically incompetent, causing lots of discontent in the military. Nevertheless, I think he still came out quite happy with just scaring the West away from those two countries, and messing up any prospect for a brighter future for them.
  - NicoJuicy 7y ago
    Perhaps your vision is too black and white. Russia still receives sanctions ( that hurts their economy) and Crimea has always been mostly Russians, with over 65% Russians. None of them were actually part of the EU. Although i would have wished Ukraine would have been better off without Russia ( and more democracy). It's not that easy to make an objective opinion, Russia had way more to loose than any of us + 65% Russians in the country would have made it possible to make a democratic decision ( in theory) Georgia, i'm not aware of that actually. It's seems to me that both were caused by oil for Russia. My statement about subsidizing renewable energy against Russia has only been proven right.
    - baybal2 7y ago
      > Russia still receives sanctions If they were afraid of sanctions (which, even at this level are a complete joke,) they wouldn't be doing military adventures which would set them as a target for them. > It's not that easy to make an objective opinion, Russia had way more to loose than any of us + 65% Russians in the country would have made it possible to make a democratic decision ( in theory) This sound to me as a Russian a complete nonsense. An average Russian couldn't have hated Russia more for what it is, let alone opting to jump into the "warm embrace of the fatherland" once they got out. For Russians, Russians who ended up with Ukrainian, Baltic states, or even a some joke Central Asian passport after the collapse of the Union are seen as somebody very lucky. And the talk of ethnic Russians in the West, let alone US and Canada ever thinking of returning to Russia is a complete joke. Sorry, but you read to much Pravda, I'm afraid. I can't get other words for that.