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There appears to be some kind of smear campaign waged against Samsung by its foundry competitor TSMC at national level. Not sure about this insecurity or fake
by tooltalk 7y ago
There appears to be some kind of smear campaign waged against Samsung by its foundry competitor TSMC at national level. Not sure about this insecurity or fake rivalry by Taiwanese tech companies who see Samsung as a major threat (https://phys.org/news/2013-04-taiwan-tech-industry-samsung.html https://phys.org/news/2013-04-taiwan-tech-industry-samsung.h...), but according to Reuters:
ASML rejects Samsung's involvement in IP theft case with rival, APRIL 17, 2019,
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-asml-holding-spying-samsung-elec/asml-rejects-samsungs-involvement-in-ip-theft-case-with-rival-idUSKCN1RT1UR https://www.reuters.com/article/us-asml-holding-spying-samsu...
Samsung invested heavily in both companies XTAL and ASML (and owned at least 5% of the company at one point). Further, Samsung was never in semi-equipment/chemical business -- that's simply not their core competence.
- dirtyid 7y agoI don't think it's a smear campaign per say, Samsung stole their their way to display tech dominance. It's just recognition that these tactics are still being embraced in lagging industries in some countries. ASML has no-touch policy for Samsung employees for their scanners, they've been pretty savvy in mitigating attempts at copying their tech for the last 20 years. Also I didn't mean to implicate Samsung was behind the attacks, merely they benefited most from stolen trade secrets - XTAL directly compete against ASML in Korean using the secret. The same way Huawei and BOE will benefit from flexible screen tech stolen by Samsung subcontractor Toptek. So far these have been economically motivated - thieves not spies. I think state level espionage is going to happen soon, now that ASML has been pressured to pick sides.
- tartoran 7y agohttps://bits-chips.nl/artikel/to-asml-china-is-just-another-korea/ https://bits-chips.nl/artikel/to-asml-china-is-just-another-...
- tooltalk 7y agoASML rejects Samsung's involvement in IP theft case with rival, APRIL 17, 2019, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-asml-holding-spying-samsu.. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-asml-holding-spying-samsu....
- tooltalk 7y ago> Also I didn't mean to implicate Samsung was behind the attacks ... Really? After describing XTAL as "owned by Chinese/Korean" when Samsung was just an outside investor and quoting ASML CEO accusing Samsung? Or how about your willful ignorance that Samsung had been a major 5+% "owner" of ASML under customer co-investment program since 2012? Sure, you may be right. I'm a software engineer, so I don't have any insight in the industry, but you should at least try to look neutral and consistent. Don't forget to wipe your history so as to make it difficult to guess your national origin (though I didn't have to), because it's so easy to see your ulterior motive through the garbage -- it destroys your credibility.
- dirtyid 7y agoSamsung is a 30% shareholder of Xtal. Xtal became an immediate ASML competitor for Samsung semiconductor using the theft as implied by "our biggest Korean customer" quoted from ASML CEO in interviews. Stating Samsung is the immediate beneficiary of the theft as conjectured (AKA "hinted") by Dutch media based on ASML CEO interview at the time... is not neutral how? Lot's of IP shenanigan in high barrier semiconductor industry and Korean Chaebol industrial policy has history of IP theft to benefit domestic industries. Please explain how any of my claims triggered you so much: >Don't forget to wipe your history so as to make it difficult to guess your national origin (though I didn't have to), because it's so easy to see your ulterior motive through the garbage -- it destroys your credibility. Like what is this even?