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I cannot imagine the product teams that designed the Audi e-tron or the Mercedes EQC having sat down and said, "Let's build a car to compete with Tesla." What t
by steelframe 7y ago
I cannot imagine the product teams that designed the Audi e-tron or the Mercedes EQC having sat down and said, "Let's build a car to compete with Tesla." What they created did not attempt to meet Tesla's strengths.
Tesla understands that the thing that new EV owners really want is to feel secure (read: range and chargers so they're not stranded) and to have their newfangled electric cars feel "futuristic" (read: spartan interior, big touchscreen, autopilot, OTA software updates).
Audi, Jaguar, Mercedes, et. al think that new EV owners want the same driving experience they had in their gas cars, only with an electric drivetrain. So they made their cars heavier in their pursuit of making the cars quiet, which they accomplished quite well. They preserved much of the body styling at the expense of drag because they assumed customers would want that brand identity. They targeted the "non power users," in that they held back a significant chunk of the battery from the consumer (~20% for the e-tron) so that consumers in hot climates couldn't wreck the battery by habitually charging all the way to 100% and letting the pack sit like that, which destroys lithium ion battery chemistry.
Tesla on the other hand spent their complexity budget for the Model 3 on extracting as much range as possible with as little expense as they could. As a result, the car is significantly lighter, and anyone who owns a Model 3 can attest to the fact that there's a lot of road noise. This is immediately solvable with heavier materials, but Tesla understands that the first batch of Model 3 owners strongly prefer the range over the creature comfort. And that the first batch of Model 3 owners are less likely to wreck their battery packs by habitually letting them sit overcharged for long periods of time. So they can expose the full battery packs to the consumer and get that 20% range boost over competitors who hold that back from the consumer.
2020/2021 is starting to get interesting with the Ford Mach E, the Volvo Polestar 2, the LEAF Plus, the second-year Hyundai Kona Electric and Kia Niro Electric, and the updated Bolt, together with the very rapidly expanding Electrify America rapid charging network. Tesla will continue to optimize for range and will likely keep a "stats lead" on the competition, but as range anxiety starts to be alleviated the second generation of EV converts may shift their demands away from range and toward other characteristics of the vehicle such as the interior and road noise isolation. It will be interesting to see where that goes.
- pathartl 7y agoI want to take a ride in a Model 3 just because of the reported road noise. I bet it's half as loud as my Mini Cooper S. Whenever I get into another car it seems like it's completely dead in comparison. Also I wonder if road noise could be combated by active noise canceling.
- dv_dt 7y agoIf you're going from maybe a high-mileage high-volume hybrid, or other gas efficient compact to a Model 3, the driver is going to think the Model 3 is quieter. If you're going from a conventional Mercedes/BMW to a Model 3, you'll think the Model 3 is louder and a rougher ride.
- Shivetya 7y agoAs an owner of a Tesla 3, if they would only put some effort into sound deadening they would be able to silence many of their critics. Now I put this car just below a pre 2010 Accord I used to deal with but let me be honest, an EV should emphasize its silent drive by trying to keep the drive as quiet as possible. Compared to my 2017 Volt, it is louder on bad roads; roads with obvious surface degradation and even tar snakes; but quieter than my 2012 Z4 but that is on par with other 3 and 4 series. as for the EV market in general. I don't think Mercedes, Audi, and maybe even VW; parent of Audi, as whole take the whole range number seriously. To them they are being forced into an platform that they do not want and never would have gotten to. It is very much likely no governments would have ever pushed BEV adoption if Tesla had not come along. We would have forever been stuck in the sub 100 mile range cars with some incremental range improvements to convince us they were improving year after year.
- aguyfromnb 7y ago>Tesla understands that the thing that new EV owners really want is to feel secure (read: range and chargers so they're not stranded) Do you have any evidence for this? It's a fact that most people drive fewer than 50 miles per day, and most can charge at home. I'd also bet that most EV owners have a second vehicle which has an ICE.